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Politics (+11)

 * Suggested by Wolf-gangs

The wiki strictly does not allow users to talk about politics and the punishment is 1 month. I guess the punishment is quite strict and politics is something many users like talking about. I think we should allow politics as long it does not go beyond a user limit.

For (11)

 * 1) --FlagBahrain.svg Wolf-gangs ( T a l k ) 10:43, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 10:45, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) -- Roger6881  (talk)   10:53, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) So i could have been blocked for one month for saying i don't like my government? kden -- Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 10:55, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) Penguin-Pal   (talk)  11:00, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) Zomg_its_homer_simpson_from_CP.png Bangarang. Zomg_its_homer_simpson_from_CP.png 12:41, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) -- THE RULER AND DICTATOR OF AWESOME HAS RETURNED!!!!!  TALK TO HIM, OR ELSE! 14:17, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 6) Kallie Jo   (talk)  15:16, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 7) User:  Kan  po1  19:15, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 23:44, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Rowboat Pin.PNGtalk 05:25, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Yoda sprites.png TheYodaKing Yoda sprites.png

Comments

 * Wait so I get blocked for saying "blame the government"? =[ 10:45, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * No political talking? Seems like there've been some political interests behind the decision to launch this rule. Penguin-Pal   (talk)  11:00, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, where does it say in the policy that politics is not allowed? --Rowboat Pin.PNGtalk 11:09, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * It's currently in the Userpage Policy. -- 23:44, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay thanks :P --Rowboat Pin.PNGtalk 05:22, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for bringing this up. I understand the rule was probably added to prevent fights, but there is a Fights Policy for that. -- 23:44, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * The policy currently forbids users from adding any political-related materials on their user page, which is a blatant violation of the International Covenant on civil and political rights. Thus, it must be removed. --Rowboat Pin.PNGtalk 05:25, August 9, 2014 (UTC)

Include a "grant trial" option in promotion votes (+10)

 * Suggested and confirmed by Dps04

Currently, there are only 2 available options in rollback/patroller promotion votes: For and against. By voting "for", it means that a user supports the nominee to be promoted permanently, while an "against" vote means that he or she does not support the nominee to be promoted at all. I believe there should be an additional third option for users to vote for in such promotion votes: "Grant a trial / Temporary Promotion". By voting for this option, the user supports the nominee to be promoted for a trial period (probably 2 weeks), so other users can review the nominee's performance during this period and determine whether he or she deserves a permanent promotion or not. After the trial period, either there should be another vote or the administration should decide whether the nominee should be promoted permanently. This could hopefully provide an alternate option for users who can't decide whether they should vote "for" or "against" the nominee's promotion. Any thoughts?

For (11)

 * 1) --Rowboat Pin.PNGtalk 16:41, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Zomg_its_homer_simpson_from_CP.png Bangarang. Zomg_its_homer_simpson_from_CP.png 16:44, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) http://images.wikia.com/common/avatars/thumb/c/c2/5585102.png/25px-5585102.png.jpg OP   is a   llama!  http://images.wikia.com/common/avatars/thumb/c/c2/5585102.png/25px-5585102.png.jpg
 * 4) Kallie Jo   (talk)  17:29, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) EEK.png you know it is Apj
 * 6) -- Roger6881  (talk)   17:31, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 7) OlafPuffleUpClose.png TheNintendoKing OlafFrozen.png
 * 8) Callum
 * 9) User:  Kan  po1  19:18, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 23:44, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Penguin-Pal   (talk)  06:32, August 9, 2014 (UTC)

Against (1)

 * 1) -- THE RULER AND DICTATOR OF AWESOME HAS RETURNED!!!!!  TALK TO HIM, OR ELSE! 17:43, August 8, 2014 (UTC)

Comments

 * Sorry about this. I'm voting against because this policy implies that rollbacks will continue to be promoted by community vote, while I prefer for the administration simply to decide. It's a great idea, but it doesn't really gel with my preferences. Again, sorry. -- THE RULER AND DICTATOR OF AWESOME HAS RETURNED!!!!!  TALK TO HIM, OR ELSE! 17:43, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * You have a great idea up there. Why not set up a new vote based on that idea of yours? Lets see what the community thinks :P --Rowboat Pin.PNGtalk 17:45, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * No wonder you're calling yourself a dictator in your signature. 18:13, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * What value will each vote type have, and if it passes, how would we determine whether a given user should be given X rights, trial X rights, or no rights at all? Penguin-Pal   (talk)  17:56, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * The answer is simple: 42. 19:46, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * I suppose we would go with whichever vote type got the most votes. -- 23:44, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey.youcp is right. If this vote gets passed, "grant trial" votes will not be counted towards the total value. Whichever option (for/against/grant trial) gets the most number of votes will win. --Rowboat Pin.PNGtalk 05:06, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't see this change making much of a difference, but it's better than an "I don't know" option. We can try it out. -- 23:44, August 8, 2014 (UTC)

Removing Community Vote for Rollbacks (0)

 * Suggested by Awesome335 and confirmed by Roger6881

This vote is for taking away the process of a community vote to promote rollbacks, and handing such power to the administrators. This does NOT affect any other user rights categories. People may think that this is a dictatorial approach, but it's been done before! There was a period of several years where this was the status quo. Somewhere along the line, it got changed. I'm trying to change it back now, because I feel like rollback rights are not "as big a deal" as admin or patroller, and as such, they don't require a community vote. If passed, this policy will take effect AFTER the current rollback promotion vote has finished. To apply for rollback, one would use this page, and an admin would respond "yes", "no", or they could grant a trial period, as Dps04 suggested above. One final, important note: Dps's vote to include a grant trial option applies to ALL rights, not just rollbacks. So, you can still vote for trials for the other rights, and admins will still be able to grant trials to those applying for rollback. Thoughts?

For (3)

 * 1) -- THE RULER AND DICTATOR OF AWESOME HAS RETURNED!!!!!  TALK TO HIM, OR ELSE! 18:49, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Callum Fawsitt (Talk)
 * 3) --FlagBahrain.svg Wolf-gangs ( T a l k ) 07:27, August 10, 2014 (UTC)

Against (3)

 * 1) -- Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 19:25, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) User:  Kan  po1  22:51, August 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) Zomg_its_homer_simpson_from_CP.png Bangarang. Zomg_its_homer_simpson_from_CP.png 11:59, August 12, 2014 (UTC)

Comments

 * Ummmm... NO

Forum Section: Ask an Admin! (+10)

 * Suggested and confirmed by Roger6881

Hello Club Penguin wiki, I have an idea, a goal, an ambition to which I will share with you today: After looking through countless forum posts I noticed an area missing. What is that area you might ask? Communication. More specifically, community. I attempted to find a solution to make it seem more 'forum like'; I searched for an idea that was popular among forums. I finally found one: ask a moderator anything. Naturally I thought this was a great idea to get to know your moderators, or, to put it in wikia terms, administrators.

This feature will allow you to freely ask questions (any spam will be deleted) as long as they are in the policy, anything. Want to know what my favorite book is? What about how cake vs pie originated (it's hilarious, I have to say!) Well, now you can.

Each respective administrator will get a forum for you to post on. Like the trial version, we might expand it!

For (10)

 * 1) -- Roger6881  (talk)   08:54, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) OrangePuffleApr2014PengStyleCatPose.png I steal your cake!   Problem?  BirthdayCakewithCandles.png 08:58, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) Callum Fawsitt
 * 4) Cadence176761
 * 5) Ecpg
 * 6) -- THE RULER AND DICTATOR OF AWESOME HAS RETURNED!!!!!  TALK TO HIM, OR ELSE! 14:02, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * 7) Kallie Jo   (talk)  15:11, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * 20:28, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Yoda sprites.png TheYodaKing Yoda sprites.png
 * 2) 🎈Let's go to Saturn!🎈  22:17, August 19, 2014 (UTC)

Comments

 * This is very cool idea. But I hope everyone will not spamming "Hi *admin name* do you like pie/cake?" Troll.png OrangePuffleApr2014PengStyleCatPose.png I steal your cake!   Problem?  BirthdayCakewithCandles.png 08:58, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was thinking once the question has been asked, do not ask for it again. This can be explained in one huge 'master post' at the top of the forum. Maybe a limit on how many questions asked as well. We can only ask so much, you know? -- Roger6881  (talk)   09:03, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Or maybe, once the question answered by an admin, they need to lock the thread to avoid huge spam thread? OrangePuffleApr2014PengStyleCatPose.png I steal your cake!   Problem?  BirthdayCakewithCandles.png 09:38, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * "Each respective administrator will get a forum for you to post on." So it's just a thing for people who are too lazy to use talk pages? 09:04, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Pretty much. But it is for those talk page messages, and to be honest a general goal of a system supports the goal better than a thing that can be used for either/or. I've never been asked what my favorite berry is, for example. -- Roger6881  (talk)   09:12, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * I want my own second talk page on the forum too! ( ≖‿≖) 09:26, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * I want one too... too bad i am not a mod! :D -- Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 14:24, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm sure if all goes well moderators can get one. Sorry, Penstubal. -- Roger6881  (talk)   14:56, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * A fabulous idea. -- THE RULER AND DICTATOR OF AWESOME HAS RETURNED!!!!!  TALK TO HIM, OR ELSE! 14:02, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Lol, Awesome stole my comment. :P Kallie Jo   (talk)  15:11, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Cool. -- 20:28, August 15, 2014 (UTC)

Removing Player Card and in-game images from Custom T-shirt list (-2)

 * Suggested and confirmed by Kallie Jo

Recently, about 200 player card/in-game images were added to the Custom T-shirt page. While player card and in-game images can provide a different aspect of the particular item's appearance, it seems the appearance barely differs. Plus, having 200 images in a table is never a good idea (it really clogs up the table, and wikitables were just plainly not meant to have 200 images stuffed in them). It makes loading time unnecessarily longer, even when each of the images are only 64px in width. I think having that many images on a page or in a table actually makes the whole thing counterproductive. This vote would only keep the icons of the custom t-shirts.

For (2)

 * 1) Kallie Jo   (talk)  22:36, August 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Callum

Against (4)

 * 23:39, August 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Penguin-Pal   (talk)  06:00, August 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) -- Roger6881  (talk)   08:26, August 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) Yoda sprites.png TheYodaKing Yoda sprites.png

Comments

 * Most items in Club Penguin have similar icon, player card, and in-game images, so saying "the appearance barely differs" is a weak argument. In that case, should we also remove the player card and in-game images from every other item article as well? Of course not. Also, if you look at the other Custom Items articles, all of them have in-game and player card images too (except for Custom Furniture, of course). Why should we remove those images from only one article? That doesn't make any sense. As it is now, the table loads pretty smoothly, even after clearing my cache. If you are about to vote, you can even test this for yourself before voting. It is also perfectly formatted and doesn't look clogged up to me. I don't see a reason to remove the player card and in-game images from the table. -- 23:39, August 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * The player card and in-game images not differing much from icons is only a strong argument with the fact that we have player card and in-game images usually only for items that have their own page, while these in-game and player card images are all in one page/table. I find them redundant. The images take a while to load for me, maybe you have faster internet. I'd say the majority of users probably have an internet speed that would make that page take longer to load than yours. I'm only bringing it up for this page because of how many player card/in-game images are on the page and in the table (no other 'custom item' pages have this many). Kallie Jo   (talk)  23:50, August 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * While no other custom item articles have 195 images, the Custom Hoodie list comes pretty close to that with 144 images, and the amount will only increase if Club Penguin decides to add more of the same type of custom item. The same goes for the other custom item articles. I don't think this vote is a solution. If this was a vote to remove the player card and in-game images from all custom item articles, then it would be different. However, removing the images from only one custom item article is just inconsistent. -- 00:31, August 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well.. im kinda skeptical about this. To begin with, there are exactly 201 images on this table, each one has small dimensions. Each row has images with a size of roughly 20kb, and the total images' size is about 1.4MB, so even if you are with a terribly slow internet connection, i doubt if loading time for 99.9% of the clients with the "faster" internet connection would take more than 8 to 10 seconds, tops. As the images are placed in a collapsible box that is hidden by default- which also takes 2 to 3 seconds to be collapsed, by the way- and is placed in the midddle of the page, i don't see why anyone would open the page, expand the box and scroll straight to its bottom before all images visible on his screen have loaded. And in addition, if images' loading becomes a big problem, we could sort them in a gallery: wikia uses the webp format for gallery images, which would cut the size of all Custom T-shirts' images by about 70% a will thereby reduce loading time (or we could replace the wiki file links with the webp image URL). But loading time is something that still exist and cannot be escaped- whether you point an image to some image URL, it would take the image a while to load, and if you pre-load it by simply adding a DataURI link instead, which wont require requesting that image from another server, the overall webpage would take extra time to load. I just don't see a reason to start dealing with laoding times and such. Penguin-Pal   (talk)  06:00, August 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * While icons are important, we have those images, and I haven't experienced any delay on what I normally would. The more organised content the better.-- Roger6881  (talk)   08:26, August 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * We need this images for two reasons. One, it shows what they look like in different aspects. Two, I need them for my own person use. And I have not got any lag from the pictures. That's an opinion. It seems fine to keep them and there is no point having a vote on this. Yoda sprites.png TheYodaKing Yoda sprites.png

Changing talk pages to message walls? (-1)

 * Suggested and confirmed by Roger6881

Alright, so I just think I'd throw this out there: message walls. If you don't know what they are, they are basically forum posts incorporated into our 'talk pages'. This was originally voted for in 2012, but I've decided to 'revive' it to see what the community thinks.

The purpose of message walls is a clearer way of showing messages in a format that's easy to follow and self-archives; every so many messages you get it turns it into a page you can find at the bottom.

Are you like me who just gets annpoyed when your message does not have a title? Or when a signature is not used? Well, the message wall shows this without you having to do a thing. How cool is that? Very.

For (4)

 * 1) -- Roger6881  (talk)   10:58, August 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * 11:09, August 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) --FlagBahrain.svg Wolf-gangs <font color="#00507B">( <font color="#00649A">T <font color="#0078B9">a <font color="#008DDA">l <font color="#009FF5">k <font color="#3cc2f6">) 17:08, August 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) 🎈Let's go to Saturn!🎈  22:19, August 19, 2014 (UTC)

Against (5)

 * 1) Penguin-Pal   (talk)  11:15, August 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) -- THE RULER AND DICTATOR OF AWESOME HAS RETURNED!!!!!  TALK TO HIM, OR ELSE! 12:55, August 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) Mario  cart25  3DGlasses.png 16:49, August 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) EEK.png you know it is Apj
 * 5) The island is mine! MINE!  12:06, August 20, 2014 (UTC)

Comments

 * I'm not a huge fan of message walls. Even though talk pages are not perfect, message walls are just too limited, and don't provide as much flexibility. One of the reasons i don't really like it is because all replies are stacketd in a sequence, which can sometimes result a bit of a mess. Penguin-Pal   (talk)  11:15, August 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * wat ru talking bout rodger???? i hat mesage wals telk pges r beter. look i can use talk peages::

11:31, August 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * ( ≖‿≖) Penguin-Pal   (talk)  11:34, August 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * Honestly, no offense, but I HATE message walls. My personal issue with them is that it makes it too easy for other users to come into conversations, an opportunity which trolls tend to be quite fond of. Sorry Roger, but I have to vote "against" here. -- THE RULER AND DICTATOR OF AWESOME HAS RETURNED!!!!!  TALK TO HIM, OR ELSE! 12:55, August 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * I have trust issues against Message Walls, I just hate message walls and I PREFER talk pages. Mario  cart25  3DGlasses.png 16:49, August 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * Message walls? I love message walls! 🎈Let's go to Saturn!🎈  22:19, August 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * This is not to annoy Roger. :P I hate message walls. I am already tired of so much notifications. And the MediaWiki for messages would be nothing then. The island is mine! MINE! 12:05, August 20, 2014 (UTC)