Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-15727472-20140617150327/@comment-35104374-20140624195030

Pirate61201 wrote: I'm new to the Wiki and threads like this are what I kind of was hoping to discuss about and such, so I prepared something that basically goes in-depth on my opinion on this issue and sheds light on it. Enjoy, and feel free to reply starting a good discussion and debate:

Old CP is, in my opinion, the early days of CP and before Disney got it and started putting it's influence on it, which, though CP was bought by Disney in August 2007, I felt like it wasn't really until Late 2009 and onward when things started changing. So, in my opinion, it's Club Penguin from 2005 - Late 2009, and I use 2009 as a loose year even so.

Now that the definition is clear on what Old CP is, we can discuss on it's revival. Many have said that Club Penguin has not even changed at all, which of those people, mainly are noobs in denial or ignorant bigots. Since Late 2010-Early 2011, when staff changes were made as people like Billybob and Gizmo quit, and many changes were made, there was a lot done. They changed the style of penguins, the style of items, making manys' pixel sizes increase which personally, in my opinion, makes the penguin avatar look fat and very weird, and making items such as Head Items that were wigs and other items that looked different in the player card, but when you put them on, their pixels look completely different and all around very disatisfying, heck, many newer items look bad on Player Card and on the avatar. As well as, advertisement parties popping up, starting with the Make Your Mark Dance Party which was a subtle advertisement for Disney Channel and it's show, Shake it Up!, moving into even bigger advertisements such as Teen Beach Party, Monsters University Party, Star Wars Takeover, Muppets Takeover, and up-coming Frozen Takeover which didn't even just feature a few things or just mascots, but were entire parties just based around the advertisements.

However, this is a twist though, Disney is not to blame 100%. The reason for the change comes from old staff retiring, such as Billybob and Gizmo, and the hiring of new staff to take their place and make changes to the art style and ideas. As well as the greed of the Disney company, to make the advertisement parties, which that part is entirely their fault. But there is no reason to blame Disney for the retirement of the older staff. If you noticed, even after Disney bought CP, some people didn't even notice a difference since September 2007 - Late 2009 have been regular Old CP since the same staff remained and designed it. It wasn't until they were retired and left that real changes happened, as well as Disney's greed.

The only thing to blame Disney for with anything having to do with Old CP and the changes, is the Advertisement Parties. The retirement of Old Staff and rehiring of New Staff has nothing to do with Disney, but the people themselves and even then, you can't blame someone for retiring.

As for my opinion on the changes a little bit more in depth, I do not like a lot of them, though I do like some. Many newer items just are way too big on the penguin and in honesty, look fat and cloggy. Also, many newer items can be deceiving and when you put them on, they just look bad, not to mention some of the inspiration for newer items are just bad. And I personally like the older room designs and penguin designs, and overall art style better, the newer one is just *blah* personally to me. I also thought that parties were more original back then and a lot more fun, though some of that may just be nostalgia. As for the positives, I do have a liking towards the more weapon and weapon-like items such as the Hawkeye Quiver and Bow, Bows and Arrows, Thunder Sword, Sword of Virtue, etc. as well as some newer hair styles such as The Sweep that I normally wear now. And some of the Furniture Items, are really super freakin' cool.

Also, to be clear, I do not agree with the Old CP Revival Riots. Disney will not give it back to the original owners, as they already moved on and it is their property now. But I would appreciate it if they did some of the items old-fashioned and in the older style once and a while, and stopped re-releasing all older items willy-nilly, but it would be nice for some older styled stuff on CP occasionally or choose to update CP with something that pleases both Newer CP users and Older CP users, in the style and nostalgia factor. I agree with most of what you said. Wish I could give you kudos more than once. But I have to correct a few things.

Billybob actually left in early 2013, just before the Hollywood Party or something. And we had two takeovers in 2012 before he left.