Forum:Demotion discussion

This is regarding Sharkbate's administrator and bureaucrat rights.

Now you may be shocked at seeing this, but I don't want to just demote Sharkbate becuase I feel like it. Here's the problem. There are 2 bureaucrats at this wiki. One of them is active (Hat Pop), and one is not (Sharkbate). At the moment, Sharkbate has edited sporadically over the last 2 or 3 months. His status on the adminlist was Away and I believe Seahorseruler changed it to Inactive recently. At this moment, Sharkbate is hardly active, and when he is active, he is not using admin powers sufficiently to be regarded as an active admin.

Now, I am willing to restore Sharkbate's rights once he becomes active again, but I'm afraid it goes deeper than that. I think we are giving/removing admin rights too carelessly now. If Sharkbate becomes active again, it doesn't mean he's eligible for admin and crat rights. We have to consider if he needs these rights. People may argue that he protected a page the other day, but that's not a valid point. Any other admin could have protected that page.

I feel that SB isn't participating or taking a main role in many of the discussions we have on IRC or any other platform. I've only seen him connect here and there and then idle. That's the thing, he never really takes part. He's a little reluctant, and I don't mind that, but I believe that for bureaucray you need to be taking a pivotal role in things, and Sharkbate is wasting his bureaucrat flag. So if Sharkbate starts taking a bigger role in things, starts making forums, taking a leading role in discussions and etc - that's when he will deserve his bureaucrat flag.

Guys, Sharkbate's a great guy, but he's not utilising his available rights. Not only is he inactive at the moment, making a comeback by protecting pages and deleting some and etc isn't enough to be a bureaucrat.

Now me and Seahorseruler had a discussion and he agreed that I should have a try for running for bureaucracy. It sounds stupid, and I don't care if you go "Tigernose isn't active enough... he doesn't edit enough... he's unfair... Sharkbate's better... Tigernose has no edits compared to Sharkbate". All I want you to read is this. I give some legit reasons there. All my reasons are there, as I can't be bothered to reiterate them here.

Finally, I know that Hat Pop and Sharkbate are good friends. But Hat Pop is the only remaining bureaucrat who can demote Sharkbate (if such a vote passes), and I'm pretty sure she won't demote Sharkbate as she has said before. I don't want to brag, but I'm pretty unbiased when it comes to right changes. Anyway, enough of that. Seahorseruler will continue and he will explain the rest from his point of view below. You can discuss below regarding this whole proposal. Thanks. Tigernose out! -- Tigernose    Chat  •  Edits  22:11, June 1, 2010 (UTC)