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Removing COPPA from the Policy (+12)

 * Suggested by Eaglesrule8 and confirmed by Penguin-Pal. This vote finishes on October 5, 2013.

Not blocking locally (in the Club Penguin Wiki) users that violate COPPA by revealing their age.

For (19)
Bow down to me or suffer the consequences! ]] 22:29, September 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1)  super  _  miron    16:23, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * 2) User:Cadence176761
 * 3) Mariocart25Cake.png Mario    Talk to the CharizardBlogsEdits I didPolls 17:33, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * 4) Techman129   Talk to Tech! :DBlogs</li>Contributions</li></ul> 18:04, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * 5) Wizardly.png  JWPengie  is a   chicken   puffle!   BOK BOK!  Chicken_Puffle_Artwork.png
 * 19:38, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) David231099  ( Talk ) ( Contribs )
 * 2)  Spydar007 ( Talk  )  09:22, September 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * 3) --Leo2301.PNG MiXeR23*1 (Messages!) 11:11, September 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * 4) Chocolate_Ice_Cream_Emoticon.PNG ICECREAM!!!! Chocolate_Ice_Cream_Emoticon.PNG 22:07, September 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * 5) BlueElectricGuitar.png The Ultimate Guitar Master  <div style="width: 0px; height: 0px; border-style: solid; border-width: 6px 4px 0 4px; border-color: #fafafa transparent transparent transparent;">  Talk to the Master of Guitars :D</li>My Blog Posts :D</li>My Edits :D</li></ul> BlueElectricGuitar.png 00:21, September 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * 6) Mikeymkwii  If you can dream it, you can do it. Your limits are all within yourself.  Please sign in or create an account. is awesome. 23:38, September 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * 7) ɐɾuıN uǝǝɹפ (talk) 00:07, September 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * 8) --PlayerCardAvatarBeforeMedieval.png SugarPenguin12 <div style="width: 0px; height: 0px; border-style: solid; border-width: 6px 4px 0 4px; border-color: #999999 transparent transparent transparent;"> Talk</li>Blogs</li>Contributions</li></ul>  06:07, September 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * 9) ѕρα∂єѕ ѕℓι¢к  ∂σяσяσ нєι¢нσ  נσнη єgвєят  ∂zєяσχ | тнє вℓσѕєя |[[User talk:Dororo111122|
 * 1) ѕρα∂єѕ ѕℓι¢к  ∂σяσяσ нєι¢нσ  נσнη єgвєят  ∂zєяσχ | тнє вℓσѕєя |[[User talk:Dororo111122|
 * 1) I am Marioracer1, a former stickman, now a potato (talk) 02:09, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * 2) User:Seth4564official Leader of the island! 23:42, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) User:Seth4564official Leader of the island! 23:42, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

Against (8)

 * 1) NinjaPenguinsRequest.png YO,TURN IT UP! 17:35, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * 2) <font face="comic sans ms">  CK  Playing CP since Nov. 15, 2007.   Jealous yet?  10:11, September 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * 3) Wolf-gangs (talk) 12:57, September 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * 4) Penguin-Pal   (talk)  20:33, September 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * 5) Penguin19grg.png  Hey It's Me!   Talk to me here  Penguin19grg.png
 * 6) 540.png <font color= "White">If you try <font color= "Black">to prove <font color= "White">Murphy's Law wrong,  <font color= "White">you're <font color= "Black">gonna have <font color= "White">a bad time  540.png  02:19, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * 7) Jeserator HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!   Football Pin.PNG 19:54, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * 8) Best Minions Says (talk) 04:01, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

Comments
Bow down to me or suffer the consequences! ]] 17:16, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * If we remove COPPA then we can unblock underaged users and not have to block any of them again (unless ya know they break other rules like vandalize or whatever)! Super Miron thought of this idea! I just got it approved to be put on the vote page! -Eaglesrule8
 * Really? I thought of this idea? I didn't know... super  _  miron    16:23, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's not about violating COPPA- it's about not enforcing something that we didn't have to enforce from the first place- it's just not our job. Penguin-Pal   (talk)  16:25, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * NO! WE ARE NOT DOING THIS! ѕρα∂єѕ ѕℓι¢к  ∂σяσяσ нєι¢нσ  נσнη єgвєят  ∂zєяσχ | тнє вℓσѕєя |[[User talk:Dororo111122|
 * Yes we are, you can't stop us, COPPA is pathetic. Who would post personal pictures of them selves on a CP Wiki? Plus our admins will take care of that. LookatmeIgotaKey (talk) 17:21, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think its good for COPPA to be stopped ONCE AND FOR ALL. Des can't come on here cause you guys blocked my best friend. How sad do you feel now? Stickman approves of this.
 * This is the BEST idea ever! Club Penguin is a kid's game, right? This is a gienuis! Mariocart25Cake.png Mario  <div style="width: 0px; height: 0px; border-style: solid; border-width: 6px 4px 0 4px; border-color: #fafafa transparent transparent transparent;">  Talk to the Charizard</li>Blogs</li>Edits I did</li>Polls</li></ul> 17:33, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * NO,WE MUST KEEP COPPA UNTIL THE PRESIDENT APPROVES!!!!!!!! --NinjaPenguinsRequest.png YO,TURN IT UP! 17:35, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * me think this is great idea its for kids soo umm --Pokodot20014 (talk) 17:38, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't really want 8 year olds here asking stupid questions. Plus they barely know any coding. --NinjaPenguinsRequest.png YO,TURN IT UP! 17:42, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * 11 or 12 is alright i guess --Pokodot20014 (talk) 17:44, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * 10 and up would be better in my opinion. --NinjaPenguinsRequest.png YO,TURN IT UP! 18:29, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * It would be great but isn't it the law? And wikis ToU? -- David231099 ( Talk ) ( Contribs )   19:05, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * It is a law, but Wikia staff members' job is to globally disable accounts that violate COPPA or certain other ToU violations- not localy by admins although some communities have adopted the idea of also blocking locally account for this reason. This vote, of course, has nothing to do with Wikia disabling accounts of users that are younger than 13, but whether or not to continue blocking locally users or not. Penguin-Pal   (talk)  19:11, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * In that case I am for! -- David231099 ( Talk ) ( Contribs )   08:02, September 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's Wikia's job to block users for COPPA, not ours. -- 19:38, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * I am for, but I think we should still have an age limit.  Spydar007 ( Talk  )  09:22, September 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * If Wikia is breaking a law letting users hang out here when they're below 13, then so would the admins be if they'd unban users they know are below 13. Wikia Staff do their best to handle all users breaking ToU, but I think a bit of cooperation from the users' side would be nice as well. c: YATTA, ヽ( ° ヮ° )ﾉ　|　2013年09月22日、01:26:28
 * Being a victim of COPPA myself, I would feel like my 6 month block was useless. However, I don't want people to have to experience what I did. So I will remain neutral. 123  kitten  2  00:16, September 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think we should let users under 13 edit here! This would help us get a chance at getting more contributors to help make this wiki big! BlueElectricGuitar.png The Ultimate Guitar Master  <div style="width: 0px; height: 0px; border-style: solid; border-width: 6px 4px 0 4px; border-color: #fafafa transparent transparent transparent;">  <li>Talk to the Master of Guitars :D</li><li>My Blog Posts :D</li><li>My Edits :D</li></ul> BlueElectricGuitar.png 00:23, September 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * You have got to be kidding me. It's a good idea in theory, but you must realize that wikia watching over the wiki like a babysitter isn't any good, and also the mass amount of immature idiotic 7 year olds would probably tear this wiki apart from all of their junk edits. Of course qho am I kidding, it seems to me that almost nobody actually cares about good editing anyways around here, it's all about blogs and useless pages :/ (not trying to be offensive, just pointing out my opinion) <font face="comic sans ms">  CK  Playing CP since Nov. 15, 2007.   Jealous yet?  10:11, September 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * For the safety of the kids around this wiki, we must do an action to avoid letting get in troubles. Plus, having many immature editors around is a problem. As Cp kid mentioned, the quality of the edits is more important. Plus, Wikia must allow you guys first to start such votes. BTW, I didn't mention my reasons since I'm lazy to, anyway I'm against this whole thing. Wolf-gangs (talk) 12:57, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Phineas99;  Ye   Medieval   Party   September 25, 2013
 * It is true that Wikia doesn't ask local Admins to police this aspect of our Terms of Use, and we don't require local Admins to locally block. That said, in cases like this community where they do it does take some of the strain off of Wikia staff knowing that it is actively enforced. This vote seems to be about removing the requirement for Admins to block those under 13. In NO WAY would such a change in policy allow those under 13 to violate our Terms of Use by editing the wikia. It would just keep Admins from having to enforce it themselves. One result would be that Wikia staff would likely spend more time on this community reacting to cases where we have actual knowledge of underaged users. --semanticdrifter (help forum | blog) 17:20, September 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Just like Wolf and CK said,we do not want 8 year olds having horrible grammar,asking dumb questions,inserting false info everywhere and spam on the chat with horrible grammar. --NinjaPenguinsRequest.png YO,TURN IT UP! 20:12, September 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Same, they have a good point. Penguin-Pal   (talk)  20:33, September 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't believe this is a problem. If there is a problematic user on our wiki, that user will be given a warning and then blocked/banned if he or she persists, regardless of age. Also, it would be stereotypical to classify all underage users as incompetent. -- 03:12, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * They're gonna be a lot of 7-9 year olds on the chat. 2 b-crats are on the let it stay side. Plus,we don't want people,like let's say: Ravenbot,coming around and asking a dumb question like: How do I edit? and How do I do emotecions and stuff like that. You know how much junk edits were gonna revert/undo? It would totally destroy and turn our wiki into the Not So CP Wiki. --NinjaPenguinsRequest.png YO,TURN IT UP! 20:51, September 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Destroy our wiki? I think you're over exaggerating. Anyway, it's fine if a new user doesn't know how to edit. Everyone starts somewhere. -- 03:12, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * I see some of you have changed your mind and i think you are right. We should have a limit still like some of you said. I think it should also depend on maturity of the person. Take Tra for example, he is a very mature 11 year old (and when he was 10 he was still very mature). Although he could get out of hand sometimes he was still as mature as most of us 13, 14 and 15 year old people (and older). I think we should have I guess a "Sub-Vote" to see what everyone thinks the age limit should be (if we do remove COPPA), I think it should just be 10, but also you have to be mature and if you are immature too much you will get either a ban or a block. What do you guys think? -Eaglesrule8
 * Whether we have this rule in the policy, a law is a law, and accounts of users that are younger than 13 need to be disabled, or in the way we've done that- a block. I understand where you're going with this, but COPPA is still part of the ToU and its age limit remains 13. There's nothing that we can do about it from the wiki. Penguin-Pal   (talk)  05:24, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * Uh oh,you just said his age,so he will be globally disabled,pretty soon. Thanks to you >:( --NinjaPenguinsRequest.png YO,TURN IT UP! 11:36, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * My decision of voting against this is really for the users who are underage own benefit. COPPA was put in place to protect those under the age of 13. Those users who are under this age may think that they are responsible enough to be a part of Wikia, and some may truly be, although some are not and it is for their own benefit that they are blocked/disabled. I am not saying that everyone under 13 is irresponsible or incompetent. But since the point of COPPA is to protect these individuals, I think the right thing for the administrators on this wiki to do is block them, to prevent possible safety/privacy issues. Not necessarily report them to be disabled by staff (although since this whole issue has come up, like Semanticdrifter said, this wiki will have to be watched over even more by staff),  but just not to allow them to risk themselves any further until they are of the age of 13. I'm saying that the Admins should still take the responsibility about users that are underage for it is the right thing to do. If any of my comments offended you, I'm sorry as they were just my opinion. Jeserator  HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!   Football Pin.PNG 19:54, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * I am neutral of this. Sure, I do miss my old underage user friends. But now thinking of it...Just like Seman said, we will need MANY admins on the lookout of it, chat and here on the wiki. Considering most little kids, kids like 8 years old, they might put false information in several pages and also create false pages that THEY believe and it ISN'T true (Remember the Operation:Puffle page?). They will also make pointless and obvious information (Ex. The Holiday Party 2012 took place in December). I know that in that case the little kids would like to help but still...the article needs real and worth information. Interesting facts people might haven't even knew about. There are also little kids who like trolling around, vandalizing a lot. Also, what if Wikia closes the wiki because of it? Wikia would need to carry a lot of our garbage and in the life of a Wikia member, it is a lot of work. I think like 10+ and up would be good. Overall, I am not going for against, neither going for it. <Br>
 * I vote for against because I dont want under 13 years old asking stupid question and vandalize the wiki. I also think they accept to delete COPPA because they want their best friend back that currently blocked because the user is under 13. This is stupid idea to delete it. We need to keep wiki safe right? Now vote it as you heart want, not for bring back something. Your answer is your wiki life. Pick your own answer that you think it will protect the wiki or keep the the wikia. I am not trying to be rude ok? Penguin19grg.png Hey It's Me!   Talk to me here  Penguin19grg.png
 * Actually I think this entire vote should be thrown out, abd let this issue be decided by admins. Because, as Wikia staff member Semanticdrifter said, even if this vote passes users under 13 are still not allowed to edit this wiki in accordance to Wikia's Terms of Use. So basically this vote comes down to: Do the admins want the responsibility to block underage users or do they want to make the Wikia staff patrol the wiki and block underage users. That is why I think it should be the admin's decision only rather than the community's, since it's just determining admin responsibilities and not the reduction of the age limit (because according to wikia's Terms of Use, the age limit across wikia is 13, and that's set in stone because of COPPA). <font face="comic sans ms">  CK  Playing CP since Nov. 15, 2007.   Jealous yet?  07:37, September 26, 2013 (UTC)