Club Penguin Wiki:Demotion Project

The Demotion Project is a place where any user can vote on users to be demoted.

Rules and how to nominate


 * Rules


 * You can not vote for or against yourself.
 * You must have made at least 20 edits this month.
 * A user that was nominated for demotion cannot be nominated again in the following month.
 * A vote closes after 2 weeks.
 * How to nominate a user


 * 1) Contact an admin and mention the nominee's username. Tell the admin why you believe a demotion should be done.
 * 2) This admin will then confirm whether it's a reason for demotion. If possible, it's also recommended that 2 admins will confirm it.
 * Nominating

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 * Nominated by and confirmed by 

Comments

 *  - the nominee for demotion.
 *  - the name of the person that request the demotion.
 * - the name of the confirming admin(s).
 *  - the reason for demotion.
 * Voting

Vote under the "For" section if you want to vote for, and sign under the "Against" section if you vote against. Signing is done by adding to the bottom of the list of votes: #~ Your signature must contain your user name and/or a link to your use page (or user talk or contributions).

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User:Callum Fawsitt (-6)

 * Nominated by Penstubal and confirmed by Penguin-Pal

Callum Fawsitt has recently been agressive, abusive, mean and corrupt on the chat. A few days ago, me and Miron were present, and Callum was arguring about some stuff i forgot (sorry). Miron talked to P-P and he said that P-P said things like that won't happen again. A few days later (yesterday, 13th May 2014), he was acting agressive, mean and corrupt again. Callum, after we talked about some stuff, didn't know what "gay" means and he thought it means stupid, and i later explained it to him, and Miron and I were also pointing out how he doesn't know what gay means. Callum started laughing awkwardly (more about the story on the chat logs for May 13th, 2014 here at the near bottom of the page, starting from "[2014-05-13 19:24:25]  Callum"). PLEASE read those chat logs and think a bit before you vote against!!!

Callum yesterday lied to Kallie about me screaming how he shouldn't be chat mod when i asked him "what does account age have to do with kicking and banning" after he said some stuff which have nothing to do with what i said, he once made up stories about how Miron argued with him and he once lied about C H U N K Y being 12 years old. Callum once kicked people twice for revealing their email. It may or may have not been personal, but still.

For (7)

 * 1)  Penstubal  (Talk) (Edits) 18:01, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * 18:02, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) (Agent Unknown (You didn't see anything) 18:54, May 14, 2014 (UTC))
 * 2) Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! 21:53, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3)  ~ Perapin  GreenModeratorBadge.png (Contact)  09:19, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) Orange Puffle 15:08, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) NINJA CHOP!

Against (13)

 * 1) Mario  cart25  3DGlasses.png 18:13, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) User:Cadence176761
 * 3) TheNintendoKing
 * 4) Jeserator HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!   Football Pin.PNG 19:00, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) TheOrgano
 * 6) F u r r y H a m s t e r 0 3  Puffle 2014 Transformation Player Card Rainbow.png  21:41, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * 7) FutureParty-Logo.png  JWPengie     is     in     the    FUTURE!!   43xvlD0.png 22:18, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * 8) —Vicyorus (talk) 22:35, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * 9) ɐɾuıN uǝǝɹפ (talk) 00:16, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * 10)  ✓ Kyfur  New Emote.png ( talk ) 10:54, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * 11) Kallie Jo   (talk)  16:17, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * 12) User:DjCadence ThePenguin
 * 1) User:DjCadence ThePenguin

Comments

 * Read my reason above the voting sections. PLEASE THINK A BIT AND READ THE CHAT LOGS BEFORE YOU VOTE AGAINST! And please don't vote neither for nor against if the user is just your friend or enemy. Penstubal  (Talk) (Edits) 18:01, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, Callum may be your friend and such, but something has to be done about this. Penstubal  (Talk) (Edits) 18:02, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * No, just no. Mario  cart25  3DGlasses.png 18:13, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * ?  ~ Perapin  GreenModeratorBadge.png (Contact)  09:53, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Excuse me? This is all a lie. I was there. Callum never did this.
 * Read the chat logs OMG They were are logged and couldn't have been edited by an user -.- Penstubal  (Talk) (Edits) 18:41, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Read the chat logs  ~ Perapin  GreenModeratorBadge.png (Contact)  09:53, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * I seen proof on User talk:Penguin-Pal, he kicked someone for proving that someone was swearing in a Private Message, i saw it, callum did it, nobody can say he can't because he did, i saw it (Agent Unknown (You didn't see anything) 18:57, May 14, 2014 (UTC))
 * I am highly against this. Callum is anything but aggressive, abusive, mean, and corrupt. He is a very friendly user. Number one: so basically you are making a claim that he should be demoted because he does not know what "gay" means... okay then. Number two: he laughed... wow, he should be locked up and thrown in the slammer right now then! Number three: when you say he "lied", this can be a very biased statement, especially when he was referring to what you said. These sort of things tend to be stretched; perhaps you were suggesting that he was not a good mod so he decided to tell Kallie. This should lead to a demotion, how? Does consulting an admin violate the policy? Number four: he and Miron had a dispute. It happens, people disagree with one another and sometimes it leads to arguments. This does not appear to occur on a consistent basis, so of course it is best not to argue when possible, however, your claims are not strong enough for a demotion. What I have noticed lately is a high level of harassment towards Callum. A few users in chat (not saying names) were chewing him over on the simplest of things in a harassing way. I know that this has been going on recently, and I wish for an end to it immediately. It seems to me that Callum has been being ganged up on and picked at, which is very wrong. I don't care if you may not find him appealing, leave the man alone. If Callum ever seems to be "aggressive, abusive, mean, and corrupt", then it is most likely that someone is provoking him to react that way, which is not right to do. I'd really like everyone who has been involved in this pointing fingers came recently to knock it off and be the more mature person. If you wanna tell me something that I don't know, then feel free to. Jeserator  HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!   Football Pin.PNG 19:00, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Chat Mods should KNOW not to let other people provoke them react that way.  ~ Perapin  GreenModeratorBadge.png (Contact)  09:53, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * We never provoked him; he provoked us with his selfish, rude act. Penstubal  (Talk) (Edits) 19:03, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * I did not say you in particular because I was not on at the time with you. For sure, however, other users have, I don't want you to tell me that that didn't happen. I saw what was going on, I understood what was going on, and that's final. Jeserator HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!   Football Pin.PNG 19:06, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Jeserator, you are never on when he is on, not often at least, if you check the logs (provided it was a time when the bot was on) you will see how rude he really is.
 * To have you know, I check the logs everyday. And the few times that I have been on, I witnessed the harassment towards him when he said/did nothing that would provoke anyone at all. Also, I noticed that you said below that you have heard stories from other users about him. One sad thing to know about people, they aren't always honest. If you had a grudge towards someone, would you tell others about how good they are or how bad? Obviously the bad side, so don't always rely on stories. Also, I would like for you to know that Leader of CP Parties! has been blocked for 5 days "due to several incidents of fighting and posting an offensive blog". Also, Razaq1 has been blocked for his behavior towards Callum as well. So let's sum up who's being the rude one. Jeserator HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!   Football Pin.PNG 22:16, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Good point and good persuasive comment.  ~ Perapin  GreenModeratorBadge.png (Contact)  09:55, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Good point. Penguin-Pal   (talk)  09:42, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * And what about the "he once made up stories about how Miron argued with him and he once lied about C H U N K Y being 12 years old. Callum once kicked people twice for revealing their email" part? Are you going to pretend that never happened? 13:00, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * No, I'm not going to pretend that it never happened. I simply did not bother addressing it because hearsay and biased opinions of a situation do not qualify under my book as criteria for demotion. Nor does kicking someone for revealing their email address. He thought that it was a privacy related issue and took the wrong action. Live and learn, everyone makes mistakes. I think that things are being blown out of proportion lately. Jeserator HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!   Football Pin.PNG 19:01, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Such stupid.
 * I was there, and I really think Callum doesn't deserve this. F u r r y H a m s t e r 0 3  Puffle 2014 Transformation Player Card Rainbow.png  21:42, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry Callum, but you have been getting quite rude with some people. And lying to Penguin-Pal about the reason I blocked your PMs? Wow. Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! 21:53, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * He seemed cool, but I have heard various people tell me stories confirmed by other users of how he has issued unfair punishments and etc.
 * I will no vote for this, but I do have lots of cons and some pros about Callum. TanCowboyHat.png Chriskim98    Talk PageContribsBlogs TanCowboyHat.png 22:23, May 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * Fair enough, but... I'm not voting for this. --GlitchPokemon (talk) 22:46, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't see why he deserves this. Everyone is a bit mean every once in a while. And laughing? He was just joking around. Let it go, as Elsa would say. ɐɾuıN uǝǝɹפ (talk) 00:16, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * What is this immature nonsense? I wanted the lot in the conflict demoted, not just Callum. The following people that are supposed to be nominated for demotion are: Callum Fawsitt, Super Miron, and Twinkie102. Now as I don't want to go off topic, I will just focus on my approval of Callum being demoted (''[ see this])  ~ Perapin  GreenModeratorBadge.png (Contact)  09:19, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Miron doesn't deserve demotion Penstubal  (Talk) (Edits) 11:40, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Note to Callum: If you think my judgement is too critical and harsh, please let me know and I will take this up to another admin or a professional user to see if there's any light in this that can convince me to vote against. Also, I can train rollbacks. Apologies for not going insightful in this evidence since there is too much to comment on.  ~ Perapin  GreenModeratorBadge.png (Contact)  09:19, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comments, but please note that i've replaced the full content of your message with a link to your original message, to prevent this content from flooding the discussion. Penguin-Pal   (talk)  09:42, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi everybody
 * {|class="wikitable sortable"

! scope="col"| Demotion Necessary ! scope="col"| Demotion Unnecessary
 * Callum's daunting attitude at times
 * Super Miron's harassing of Callum
 * Penstubal's harassing of Callum
 * Twinkie102's harassing of Callum
 * colspan="2"|Final judgement: AGAINST
 * }
 *  ✓ Kyfur  New Emote.png ( talk ) 10:54, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * So you think that Callum shouldn't be demoted just because you're making up stories about us harassing him? kden. 12:44, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Twinkie102's harassing of Callum
 * colspan="2"|Final judgement: AGAINST
 * }
 *  ✓ Kyfur  New Emote.png ( talk ) 10:54, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * So you think that Callum shouldn't be demoted just because you're making up stories about us harassing him? kden. 12:44, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * So you think that Callum shouldn't be demoted just because you're making up stories about us harassing him? kden. 12:44, May 15, 2014 (UTC)


 * Look, i don't see how Callum are getting demoted... but seriously: "Callum yesterday lied to Kallie about me screaming how he shouldn't be chat mod when i asked him "what does account age have to do with kicking and banning" after he said some stuff which have nothing to do with what i said, he once made up stories about how Miron argued with him and he once lied about C H U N K Y being 12 years old. Callum once kicked people twice for revealing their email. It may or may have not been personal, but still.". --GlitchPokemon (talk) 13:15, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * I Love Callum in every way. He's not rude, he's not abusing his powers, and he's always nice! There's No way he would do all those things. Besides, If I did those things, That would be breaking my hero's code. And its bad if I do that... I don't want to go into description about explaining what happens if I break the Hero's Code. So here's one word to describe this: Stupid.Do do do do Banana Bus! (talk) 14:18, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Indeed, that word is the only way I can describe your comment. 14:22, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Miron, you should know better than to go saying things like that
 * Hes had like five billion fights on chat [[User:OrangePuffle]
 * Ummm, proof?
 * Did you lose your glasses so you can't read chat logs? -- Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 15:58, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * The example you provided in the chat logs was not a good one: all I see is Pens and Miron laughing at Callum because he had a misconception of the meaning of the word gay. Callum then tries to ignore it, maybe feeling slight humiliation, by saying "k". I do not see Callum being rude anywhere, all I see are people either a.) trying to make Callum look bad, b.) people trying to provoke Callum, or c.) trying to make Callum feel unwelcome. I know Callum well; he is a very kind user who is quite the opposite of mean or threatening. What needs to stop is people trying to make Callum feel unwelcome. This is a very serious issue, and frankly me nor Callum would like to tolerate it anymore. Of course, Callum is not perfect and may not have handled some of these situations as best as he could, but as far as I know he did not do anything to deserve demotion. It sickens me how many of the same people who provoked Callum are voting for. Kallie Jo   (talk)  16:17, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * And what about the "he once made up stories about how Miron argued with him and he once lied about C H U N K Y being 12 years old. Callum once kicked people twice for revealing their email" part which everyone just ignores? 16:20, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * He thought Chunky was 12 because Leader has told him this on Skype (he told me this personally weeks ago). Plus, thinking someone is underaged does not deserve demotion, obviously. And it seems he didn't make up stories, he mostly just exaggerated the situation. I'm not saying that is right. Kicking people for revealing their email is something I can simply talk to him about, I mean he was just promoted in April, it's typical that a user that hasn't had their rights for a long time would make a mistake soon after being promoted. Please do not think I am dismissing these things, I just do not think they are demote-worthy. Kallie Jo   (talk)  16:37, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * He's annoying too, he keeps saying 'HI AGENT (WAVE)' when i join the chat, so i sent him a private message to tell him to say 'WAZZUP AGENT!' and he said 'Ok' but he keeps saying 'HI AGENT (WAVE)' it's really annoying (Agent Unknown (You didn't see anything) 16:22, May 15, 2014 (UTC))
 * ...ok, so now we've moved on to complaining about how he politely greets people in chat... Explosion animation.gif Jeserator HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!   Football Pin.PNG 19:01, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * I feel he should be demoted. I was his friend, until he made up stories of me being twelve and other stories about my friends. He has turned into a nasty person, who has set his mind wholy on trying to get others demoted. I hope he will be demoted, if not blocked. 16:37, May 15, 2014 (UTC)

User:Super Miron (-1)

 * Nominated by Callum Fawsitt and confirmed by Dps04

For (2)

 * 1) Callum Fawsitt
 * 2) Cadence176761

Against (3)

 * 1) (Agent Unknown (You didn't see anything) 15:35, May 15, 2014 (UTC))
 * 2) Penstubal  (Talk) (Edits) 15:48, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) Yellowperson has returned from dopeland (talk) 16:01, May 15, 2014 (UTC)

Comments

 * He has been fairly rude in the chat room recently, he has made several rude comments towards me when I kicked someone for sharing an email that included their own name in, a few weeks ago. And he oftenly makes rude comments towards me when there are just me and him as mods on the chat and I kick someone for using caps.
 * Wow. You nominate him yet you already abuse powers and act rude and mean too. Callum, i cannot believe you! You do deserve demotion! Penstubal  (Talk) (Edits) 15:51, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * AGREED! (Agent Unknown (You didn't see anything) 16:23, May 15, 2014 (UTC))
 * Do you have any proof that he did? all the time me and him are on chat, he acts nice, i have one to say: OBJECTION (AKA Against) (Agent Unknown (You didn't see anything) 15:39, May 15, 2014 (UTC))
 * Wow, i can't believe you, Callum. Penstubal  (Talk) (Edits) 15:49, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Those who vote for are blinded. Most of them would probably be those who vote against for Callum's demotion, yet he was also maybe meaner than Miron, if he even was mean. -- Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 15:53, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * There have been some instances where Miron has acted rude to other users, but I think they are unintentional for the most part. I'm not sure if this deserves a demotion. Kallie Jo   (talk)  15:57, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't feel a fantastic user and a great friend should be demoted just because another user, who takes great joy in watching others being demoted, is of threat of it happening to himself. Why should callum take out his anger on Miron? 16:37, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * YEAH (Agent Unknown (You didn't see anything) 16:40, May 15, 2014 (UTC))