User:Tigernose/deleted blog

Straight from the shoutbox...

[20:58]  Hey guys. Great job there Happyface. You and your mature self have really helped restore neutrality. [20:58] ... No wonder Seahorseruler gave up on trying to help this wiki. The biased articles here are amazing(!) [20:59] ... Every edit I make is reverted. Wait? How come TurtleShroom [20:59] ... 's edits aren't reverted. He clearly viewed me as a villain in this wiki, yet he talks so good of [21:00] ... himself on his pages. I wonder why? Oh... right... TS really IS a dictator who can do anything he wants.

I know it doesn't affect you, but how come every article here is biased towards the wiki's top editors? Okay, it's a fan fiction wiki, but who's going to read this?

This was the message I gave to the CPW, if you're going to make a wiki, at least keep the purpose of the website. Wikia's given you a ton of bytes to work with, and you're supposed to use this space to make articles worthy for reading. And the majority of people who are going to read this aren't going to be frequent users, even on Fanon. But by the looks of these articles, the bounce rate on this wiki is probably over 100%! Not only have they got nothing to do with Club Penguin (somebody even posted this on the main page once), their entirerly focused upon this wiki's users and other wikis. In a fanon wiki, it's purpose is to give clever, imaginative works of fiction based upon a subject to entertain others. When I go on other fanon wikis, I'm looking for skill and articulation in these articles. But what reader is going to care or have a clue about what's happening in this article? Nobody. Nobody apart from this wiki's users and the primary viewer should be the typical reader who isn't a editor here.

I am not asking you to make changes to this wiki's block system and policy. Sea tried that, and Explorer civilly gave a resounding no, and TurtleShroom disagreed entirely with everything in the blog (even the unblocking of me, when I had 0 edits). Changing the policy and whatnot is useless here. If the users of this wiki are happy and get along, then so be it. I don't care, it doesn't affect the reader.

But, if you could please make some better articles that aren't so biased towards users, you can be worthy of spotlight. Even if you do meet Spotlight criteria (in which you don't anyway), who's going to care about a bunch of articles about Billy Mays and his Antarctican airways?

The articles are way too biased. How come every edit I make on an article about me (or a fictionised [if not a fictional article about me exagerrated excessively] article based upon me) is reverted? TurtleShroom perceived me as a villain, Explorer reverted this (but kept numerous biased aspects, yet I don't blame him), but if he calls me a villian, can't I categorise the Tigernose article into the category: "Heroes"? Well, I may not be a hero, but I'm more of a hero than a villain, I can assure that. Simply because TurtleShroom doesn't like it when I abolish his previous schemes that prevented us from getting spotlight, he can claim that I was counter-productive to the CPW and imply that further in the completly unrelated Fanon wiki.

Fine, keep articles about the users, but just cut down on the numerous references to the CPW or the Clubb Phengin Weekee. Templates like the ones stating who took the throne in the Club Penguin Wiki found in articles like Hat Pop are useless. They've got absolutely nothing to do with Club Penguin.

When I first found out about this wiki, I decided myself not to edit. I was a frequent Fanon wiki editor back then, but because of the huge collection of unrelated articles on this wiki, I just thought it would be of no benefit to edit here.

Is it that hard to make an article about a room in Club Penguin you made up, and to describe it's appearance and features without excessive references to other wikis and glorified users of this wiki?

Please hear me on this, just try to make some good descriptive articles here and maybe I could contribute here (without getting blocked indefinetly for glorifying someone).

P.S. I took my time out of my holiday just to write this, after I found out there was an article on me. But anyway, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

BLOG COMMENTS
Tigernose 21:37, December 25, 2009 hide edit How about a good old NPOV template? Zapwire thankfully introduced this to the CP wiki and in conjuction with the manual of style, we've wiped out all biased articles. And, no offense, most of them were exaggerated articles about WPE PRO, which were written by users like Happyface and TurtleShroom.

Tigernose 21:38, December 25, 2009 hide edit Oh and claiming that you're the biggest Club Penguin-related wiki on the internet is false, you're 3000 articles are all fan fiction which is enough in itself to prevent this title, as well as the fact that they've got nothing to do with Club Penguin itself, but to do with making fun of the CPW.

Corai 21:46, December 25, 2009 hide 1.THIS ISNT FAN FIC!

2. THIS IS A FANON

3. THIS HAS TO DOW ITH CP!

Kwiksilver 23:09, December 25, 2009 hide I' gree with you, Tigernose. I apologize on behalf of the Fanon, we need to make some article changes here.

Explorer 767 23:18, December 25, 2009 hide Very funny Tigernose. I suppose that instead of clicking the Random button (like any critic wanting to know about the content of a wiki's articles would have done), you deliberately picked selective evidence so you could write a negative review. Before you say one word about this wiki, I suggest that you actually LOOK at it. The CPW is hardly ever used anymore in recent stories or articles (excepting TS's Stripedcatsnout Hall thing), and contrary to your so-called "proof", at least half the articles here have NOTHING to do with making fun of the CPW.

As for the so-called "un-relatedness" to CP, proof?

Explorer 767 23:39, December 25, 2009 hide I know it doesn't affect you, but how come every article here is biased towards the wiki's top editors? Okay, it's a fan fiction wiki, but who's going to read this?

I know this won't affect you, but how come every argument protesters make is biased in at least one way? Okay, it may be true, but has it been proven that EVERY article is biased towards the top editors? And is there a less shady explanation for that? This was the message I gave to the CPW, if you're going to make a wiki, at least keep the purpose of the website. Wikia's given you a ton of bytes to work with, and you're supposed to use this space to make articles worthy for reading. And the majority of people who are going to read this aren't going to be frequent users, even on Fanon. But by the looks of these articles, the bounce rate on this wiki is probably over 100%! Not only have they got nothing to do with Club Penguin (somebody even posted this on the main page once), their entirerly focused upon this wiki's users and other wikis.

Not only did I see one unproven assumption, I saw two. Do ALL of the CPFW's articles really have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with CP? In a fanon wiki, it's purpose is to give clever, imaginative works of fiction based upon a subject to entertain others. When I go on other fanon wikis, I'm looking for skill and articulation in these articles. But what reader is going to care or have a clue about what's happening in this article? Nobody. Nobody apart from this wiki's users and the primary viewer should be the typical reader who isn't a editor here.

Third assumption -- is EVERY article on the CPFW similar to that particular example article IN TOPIC? But, if you could please make some better articles that aren't so biased towards users, you can be worthy of spotlight. Even if you do meet Spotlight criteria (in which you don't anyway), who's going to care about a bunch of articles about Billy Mays and his Antarctican airways?

Billy Mays isn't even a user. Go figure. The articles are way too biased. How come every edit I make on an article about me (or a fictionised [if not a fictional article about me exagerrated excessively] article based upon me) is reverted? TurtleShroom perceived me as a villain, Explorer reverted this (but kept numerous biased aspects, yet I don't blame him), but if he calls me a villian, can't I categorise the Tigernose article into the category: "Heroes"? Well, I may not be a hero, but I'm more of a hero than a villain, I can assure that. Simply because TurtleShroom doesn't like it when I abolish his previous schemes that prevented us from getting spotlight, he can claim that I was counter-productive to the CPW and imply that further in the completly unrelated Fanon wiki.

HOLD YOUR HORSES! "...his previous schemes that prevented us from getting spotlight"? "...completely unrelated Fanon wiki"? "...every article I make is reverted"? "exaggerated excessively"? Tiger, bias is bad, but casting TS as a villain by talking about how he casted you as a villain? Really. Fine, keep articles about the users, but just cut down on the numerous references to the CPW or the Clubb Phengin Weekee. Templates like the ones stating who took the throne in the Club Penguin Wiki found in articles like Hat Pop are useless. They've got absolutely nothing to do with Club Penguin.

Oh, you mean the succession template that also details on who took the position of Sensei and practically who took the position of anything, not just the position of webmaster in the CPW. And I'd like to point out that while we may have a lot of characters based on users, those characters are more involved with the fanon world, not so-called "excessive references to other wikis". Is it that hard to make an article about a room in Club Penguin you made up, and to describe it's appearance and features without excessive references to other wikis and glorified users of this wiki?

Is it really that hard?

Sanchonachos 00:13, December 26, 2009 hide Why do the users of the CPW wiki just go around and just criticize every single thing on this site, so then let's see what is wrong with the CPW site then. I hate this, I hate, that...I'm getting a bit tired of it!

So, a question for Tigernose: "Why do you hate this wiki?"

Happyface414 00:50, December 26, 2009 hide Jealously, that's what.

Happyface414 00:52, December 26, 2009 hide And why would we let the same person trying to make us like the CW edit here? It ain't broke, so don't fix it.

YOU CALL US BLAND!!!

YOU MAKE ENYCLYOPEDIAS FOR PETE SAKE!!!! ENECYCLOPEDIAS ABOUT AN MMOG!!!

Would an average child read an encyclopedia about CP, or fan fiction about CP.

Explorer 767 00:54, December 26, 2009 hide Actually, I find it quite interesting that the same person who asked the CPFW to stay out of the CPW's business is now going around and criticizing the CPFW's articles, which are solely the business of the CPFW and not the CPW.

Mectrixctic 00:55, December 26, 2009 hide Yeah, Darktan would make them wet their beds for weeks.

Happyface414 01:04, December 26, 2009 hide I was honestly innocent before I read the CPW. Now I've seen strange images and read about hacking programs.

DARKTAN LOLWUT? Haven't you seen what they play today! My 4 year old brother is learning to play Call of Duty, and I played Nazi Zombie in front of him!

Happyface414 01:06, December 26, 2009 hide The only thing you learn in the CPW if you play CP is Penguin Chat, refrences, old items, and hacking programs. I could've went on playing CP without knowing that.

Explorer 767 01:12, December 26, 2009 hide Point taken, encyclopedias are useful, technical or not.

However, I seriously doubt Darktan is as scary as a REAL literature villain. Due to the COC, Darktan can't even KILL anyone, and his article's not even graphic except for transformations (which aren't exactly that scary or descriptive, anyway). No, IMHO only REALLY easily scared children will flip upon seeing Darktan.

Mectrixctic 01:19, December 26, 2009 hide My 4 year old brother is learning to play Call of Duty, and I played Nazi Zombie in front of him!

That was a joke.

And if a 4 year old can do that, why are we over-censoring our sites for six year olds.

Happyface414 01:26, December 26, 2009 hide No it was not a joke.

I'm trying to make him stop, and we don't want all 6-year olds that violent.

Mectrixctic 03:05, December 26, 2009 hide What I said was a joke, about the bed wetting.

Explorer 767 05:14, December 26, 2009 hide I see....

Explorer 767 05:17, December 26, 2009 hide Either way, if Tigernose wants to be consistent with his opinions on netiquette, then I think he should really stop walking all over our business.

Corai 05:22, December 26, 2009 hide Now i know why explorer slapped tigernose silly in oen fo turtleshroom's youtube vids.

Tigernose 11:42, December 26, 2009 hide edit Sanchonachos, I hate this wiki, because I'm unable to contribute here without my edits either getting reverted or changed completely. Yes, it's a fanon wiki and not a fan fiction wiki, but that just results in higher users having more power than lower users... when editing FANON!

Yeah it sounds obvious, and yes you can call me socialist, but I really can't edit here without my edits being completely turned upside down. It may not be the case for you, but I'm hated here so it's hard for me to edit. And I actually had some good ideas for fan fiction (I'm calling it fan fiction because a lot of people refer the term fanon to the CPFW entirely) in Club Penguin, but it was the random and pointless and extremely unrelated articles that put me off. And that was one year ago!

So, for me, it's better off to edit at that clubpenguinfanfiction wiki, because I'm not shot on sight and I can edit freely.

Explorer actually reverted every edit I made on this wiki - no kidding, just because I was using sarcasm and referring myself to a villain. Wait, how come TurtleShroom's edits aren't reverted? Because everybody is tolerant of him here, and it's impossible for me to become tolerant, simply because of what I've done to the CPW (which is a different wiki).

Tigernose 11:56, December 26, 2009 hide edit Okay then Explorer, what has this article got to do with anything?

Just because it mentions Penguins, doesn't mean it's related to Club Penguin. It's got absolutely no relation to anything I've seen in the game. What's a prepenguin? What has Macradonia got to do with anything? Why don't you call this wiki penguinfanon. Not clubpenguinfanon but penguin fanon.

Straight from the article infobox:

Drives on the Right

WHAT? There are cars in CP? This article could easily be a uncyclopedia article! I never knew Greek was ever mentioned in CP... oh wait... IT WASN"T.

Another random article: Pengo Pollo.

Clearly a reference to Marco Polo, but again got nothing to do with the game. Why don't you go and contact Wikia asking them to change the wiki's name to Penguin Fanon?

Another random article: Bosti

And here is it's first paragraph: Bosti is an explorer who's being held by the Jerk Penguins.

LOLWUT?

If I were going to be a editor, I would rather create a penguin that maybe was friends with Aunt Arctic or I would make an article about a new secret mission. But Jerk Penguins?

Another random article: 90-50 Island

This at least has light references to Club Penguin - it refers to the general penguin population of CP as penguins, not evil vampire jerk penguins.

Another random article: Peach OS X

This should be in UNCYCLOPEDIA not on CLUBPENGUINfanon.

Do you understand now? The above 5 random articles were what Explorer told me to do, and guess what: they really don't have anything to do with Club Penguin.

Tigernose 11:58, December 26, 2009 hide edit Sorry for the typos, holiday keyboard:

90-150 Island (1 doesn't work very well on this keyboard)

Peach OS Z

Explorer 767 15:27, December 26, 2009 hide Point taken, but there's one major connection between every single one of those articles -- United States of Antarctica. I'm not defending that article, though, I'll admit it branches off of CP quite a lot, even though it still uses it.

Which is why we've been trying to use Club Penguin in a recent story for quite a while. We have this Phineas and Ferb parody running that's set in CP, and it may help, but that's just one series of articles.

Tigernose, if you REALLY want to help this wiki like your friend Sea said he did, then what we need right now is suggestions on what to do with CP. (No, do NOT ask us to delete everything non-CP-related.)

Explorer 767 15:31, December 26, 2009 hide Out of the five articles I linked in my response to your blog, the AiringJet is probably the most-CP-related. Read the article, it's the artificial air vortex in which Jet Pack Adventure is played, although it extends all around Antarctica.

Explorer 767 15:46, December 26, 2009 hide Though making so-called "non-CP-related" stuff might be helpful in making stories ABOUT CP.

Take, for example, TurtleShroom's behind-the-scenes, fanonized version of the Festival of Flight. It's all related to CP, using your so-called "unrelated articles" as driving factors in the event.

And there's the unfinished Diamond Falls Re-Awakening, which is SUPPOSED to give the backstory of the appearance of the Volcano and Card-Jitsu Fire in CP by involving the Bureau of Fiction, the Bureau of Entropy, Diamond Falls, and the moon. (The moon was knocked out of orbit, and on a close pass near the earth, it pulled lava to the surface at Club Penguin Island. Hence, the volcano. Card-Jitsu Fire was the result of a government act to make people stop worrying.)

Then there's the Classification Code, which is the message that will self-destruct in over 285 years in the Gadget Room. Inspired by CP.

Basically, perhaps you're not looking at the articles from the right perspective. They might be unrelated on their own, but they can be a driving force in stories that center AROUND Club Penguin.

Tigernose 16:14, December 26, 2009 hide edit Thank you Explorer 767 for at least considering something I said. Yes, I was going to mention the United States of Antarctica later, and that it is a good fictionised version of Club Penguin, but you have to admit, the fictionisation of Club Penguin being turned into a country (i.e. USA) really did spore unrelated articles.

Your last statement I agree in, but if you're going to make a fan fiction wiki, I suggest revolving everything around the fictionised game and to stop branching off as if there were other countries and forces amd whatnot.

Well, I'm on holiday so I don't have enough time to dwell on this and researching the articles here, so I'm leaving it to you guys to do whatever you can - and that's if you want to do this.

I'm still waiting for a TS response though... that ought to fire up things :p

Tigernose 16:15, December 26, 2009 hide edit "Basically, perhaps you're not looking at the articles from the right perspective. They might be unrelated on their own, but they can be a driving force in stories that center AROUND Club Penguin."

I agree, but my suggestion is to not focus too much on things AROUND Club Penguin, otherwise they may branch off too much and end up totally unrelated: like "Peach OS Z".

Speeddasher 16:16, December 26, 2009 hide I'm trying to make him stop, and we don't want all 6-year olds that violent.

How the heck did he get that in the first place? I don't know if I'm really interested in Call of Duty. I'm more of a Ninja Gaiden and Metroid guy.

Sanchonachos 16:49, December 26, 2009 hide So, then if Tigernose just criticizes us, why don't we just give them the taste of their own medicine!

Tigernose 18:37, December 26, 2009 hide edit Go ahead Sanchonachos, but it'd be pretty hard seeing as the CPW has practically solved everything already. But invite you to do so and good luck.

SxEsinead95 18:41, December 26, 2009 hide I think of this as more of an Antarctic World Wiki, CP plays a part in it, but it's only one of over 3000 articles.

SxEsinead95 18:43, December 26, 2009 hide I do agree with Tigernose, we need to keep up to our title.

Corai 18:45, December 26, 2009 hide How you like us and go "Oh blah blah blah bad articals blah blah this isnt a cp wiki blah blah" to the CPW? If you dont like the idea dont go doing it to us! Just like my family said 'Dont critizize somethign unless you want to be critizized even harder"

SxEsinead95 18:48, December 26, 2009 hide There are many article based off of CP, and most relate to an article that relates to it.

Corai 18:50, December 26, 2009 hide Exactly, your going this isnt a cp fanon when it is, so we have a reason to go and say YOUR not a cp wiki!

Sheepman 19:35, December 26, 2009 hide I'm with you all the way Tigernose!

Tigernose 20:02, December 26, 2009 hide edit Corai, you don't have a reason to say the CPW isn't a CP wiki because it is. Useless response in my opinion.

And SxEsinead95, I agree with your first statement totally, Club Penguin plays a part but this isn't a CP fanon wiki is it?

Corai 20:10, December 26, 2009 hide lolz, you don't have a reason to say CPFW isnt a CP fanon because it is, YOUR response is worthless in 5 ways, and this blog is worthless spam in (Infinint) ways.

Sheepman 20:21, December 26, 2009 hide Corai, you make no sense in too many ways to name

Tigernose 20:21, December 26, 2009 hide edit What do you mean I don't have a reason to say that the FW isn't a CP Fanon?

How is this worthless spam?

Are you slow? Did you read this blog? I pressed the random article button 5 times as shown above and you can read how unrelated each article is. How is this lolz anyway? Do you even know what lolz means? It's called sadism. Give me those 5 ways that my response is worthless then.

Corai 20:26, December 26, 2009 hide The worthless spam was a accient didnt mean to say, i was on two tabs someone on another game was spamming like nuts on a blog.

1.How is this not a CP Fanon? From all i know most charecters i seen either are in CP or go there

2.How woudl you like us to go say useless stuff to CPW? This is very much a cp fanon -_-

3. Just cause you saw 5 articals non related to CP who gives a elf? from what i seent theres hundreds of CP related articals. Chi Con, Club Penguin island others.

4. This is BASED OF CP

5.I pushed the random more then 5 and i came out with Herbert, Gary, CP isle, ect

Corai 20:29, December 26, 2009 hide Darn that eidt bug

And your edits are reverted? What your conruitutes you only ahve 1 artical made and thats tigernose which i see no huge diffence fromt he history of it.

Sheepman 20:35, December 26, 2009 hide EVERYONE READ MY BLOG PLEASE!

Tigernose 20:40, December 26, 2009 hide edit "I pushed the random more then 5 and i came out with Herbert, Gary, CP isle, ect"

Sorry, were you pushing the button on the CPW?

I can push that button as much as I want (I'm on holiday, don't except me to waste time pushing random buttons) and I'll still end up with a majority of unrelated articles.

"4. This is BASED OF CP "

If you're going to respond, learn some grammar. Furthermore, I don't understand what you're saying so I can't give a valid response. But, if you're attemtping to say that this is 'based upon Club Penguin', then why are there so many unrelated articles?

"2.How woudl you like us to go say useless stuff to CPW? This is very much a cp fanon -_- "

I wouldn't care at all, you're not offending me, you're merely criticising me/the wiki and I take citicism, especially constructive criticism.

Look, if you're going to give me some points at least justify them with evidence. I mean it.

You're Chi Con article is actually very good, I applaud you taking a route close to CP, but like Sx said, it's only one of the 3000 articles which in majority are unrelated.

Explorer 767 20:45, December 26, 2009 hide Corai, Tiger, break it up. Let's not turn this into a flame war.

Sheepman 20:49, December 26, 2009 hide Explorer, nothing, break it up. STOP DELETING EVERYTHING I MAKE!

Tigernose 20:51, December 26, 2009 hide edit Also Corai, I am sorry if I offended you by claiming your grammar was bad (English may not be your first language, and if it is then it doesn't matter to me), I easily offend people when I'm hyped up. :P

Tigernose 20:53, December 26, 2009 hide edit The Chi Con article is avtually really good. I read it through, and it was the type of article I excpected to be here when I first found out about the CPFW (but it turned out there were hardly any articles like Chi Con). It's Currency section for one seems pretty witty, interconnecting the USA as well as Club Penguin. It's a shame I don't see many of these articles here...

Sheepman 20:56, December 26, 2009 hide Hello Tigernose, this wiki is nuts! And every time I try to de-nuts it, everything gets deleted!

Tigernose 21:03, December 26, 2009 hide edit Hey Sheepman me ol' mate; I said this as well in my blog, it uses a dictatorial system, where the higher user is allowed to do whatever they want. It's like Admin Authority but overdosed. But this isn't the matter, the neutrality and significance of each article is more important.

Corai 21:26, December 26, 2009 hide sheepman stop lieing, your making it nuts, you said the wiki was radicist and sexist.

Corai 21:29, December 26, 2009 hide Then made a blog, and said stop reviving it when you revived it, ect.

Happyface414 21:37, December 26, 2009 hide Peach OS X is an computer system FOR CP. Do you seriously think all the computers in CP and the HQ are powered by newby failed operating systems?

Tigernose 21:57, December 26, 2009 hide edit What a lame excuse Happyface. And I'm jealous of this wiki? In ya dreams.

Corai 22:06, December 26, 2009 hide in my dreams to.

Sanchonachos 22:10, December 26, 2009 hide I'm not sure about my airplane/airline/airport articles, they are under Airports o' CP and Airlines o' CP.

Happyface414 23:13, December 26, 2009 hide This is my dream. >=)

Welcome to your nightmare.

Corai 23:43, December 26, 2009 hide Bwhahahahahah

SxEsinead95 20:45, December 27, 2009 hide What does sleeping have to do with anything?