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*Personally, Miron does not really deserve a demotion. He is a mature user enough to handle his powers correctly. Something tells me you nominated him as revenge upon Pentsubal nominating you for demotion. If you genuinely did such thing, then that's something truly mature of you. <br>
 
*Personally, Miron does not really deserve a demotion. He is a mature user enough to handle his powers correctly. Something tells me you nominated him as revenge upon Pentsubal nominating you for demotion. If you genuinely did such thing, then that's something truly mature of you. <br>
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*Phineas I think what you said was true. [[File:TanCowboyHat.png|25px]]<div class="wikia-menu-button combined" style="display: inline-block;">[[User:Chriskim98|<span style="color: white;">Chriskim98</span>]]<!----><span class="drop" style="width: 10px;"><div style="width: 0px; height: 0px; border-style: solid; border-width: 6px 4px 0 4px; border-color: #fafafa transparent transparent transparent;"></div></span><!--
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**Truly mature? More like immature, however, Callum is right in Super Miron being rude. I have not been happy with his conduct. '''[[User:CPPerapin|<span style="color: #00C2FF">~ Perapin</span>]]''' [[File:GreenModeratorBadge.png|25px|link=]] <span style="color: #0066FF">[[User_talk:CPPerapin|<span style="color: #6666FF">(Contact)</span>]]</span> 05:02, May 16, 2014 (UTC)
 

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The Demotion Project is a place where any user can vote on users to be demoted.


Rules and how to nominate

Rules
  • You can not vote for or against yourself.
  • You must have made at least 20 edits this month.
  • A user that was nominated for demotion cannot be nominated again in the following month.
  • A vote closes after 2 weeks.
How to nominate a user
  1. Contact an admin and mention the nominee's username. Tell the admin why you believe a demotion should be done.
  2. This admin will then confirm whether it's a reason for demotion. If possible, it's also recommended that 2 admins will confirm it.
Nominating

To nominate, paste the following text in the bottom of the page and fill in the parameters

==<nominee> (0)==
:Nominated by <your name> and confirmed by <administrator's name>
<reason>
===For (0)===
===Against (0)===
===Comments===
  • <nominee>- the nominee for demotion.
  • <your name>- the name of the person that request the demotion.
  • <administrator's name>- the name of the confirming admin(s).
  • <reason>- the reason for demotion.
Voting

Vote under the "For" section if you want to vote for, and sign under the "Against" section if you vote against. Signing is done by adding to the bottom of the list of votes:

#~~~~

Your signature must contain your user name and/or a link to your use page (or user talk or contributions).
Remember to change the number of votes in the heading when voting.


Please vote under this line

User:Callum Fawsitt (-7)

Nominated by Penstubal and confirmed by Penguin-Pal

Callum Fawsitt has recently been agressive, abusive, mean and corrupt on the chat. A few days ago, me and Miron were present, and Callum was arguring about some stuff i forgot (sorry). Miron talked to P-P and he said that P-P said things like that won't happen again. A few days later (yesterday, 13th May 2014), he was acting agressive, mean and corrupt again. Callum, after we talked about some stuff, didn't know what "gay" means and he thought it means stupid, and i later explained it to him, and Miron and I were also pointing out how he doesn't know what gay means. Callum started laughing awkwardly (more about the story on the chat logs for May 13th, 2014 here at the near bottom of the page, starting from "[2014-05-13 19:24:25] <Super Miron> Callum"). PLEASE read those chat logs and think a bit before you vote against!!!

Callum yesterday lied to Kallie about me screaming how he shouldn't be chat mod when i asked him "what does account age have to do with kicking and banning" after he said some stuff which have nothing to do with what i said, he once made up stories about how Miron argued with him and he once lied about C H U N K Y being 12 years old. Callum once kicked people twice for revealing their email. It may or may have not been personal, but still.

For (6)

  1. Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 18:01, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
  2. 18:02, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
  3. (Agent Unknown (You didn't see anything) 18:54, May 14, 2014 (UTC))
  4. Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! 21:53, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
  5. Orange Puffle 15:08, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
  6. NINJA CHOP!

Against (13)

  1. Mariocart25 3DGlasses 18:13, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
  2. User:Cadence176761
  3. TheNintendoKing
  4. Jeserator HAIL TO THE REDSKINS! Football Pin 19:00, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
  5. TheOrgano
  6. Tin Can 3000 TO THE FUTURE! Tin Can 3000
  7. FurryHamster03 Puffle 2014 Transformation Player Card Rainbow 21:41, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
  8. FutureParty-Logo JWPengie is in the FUTURE!! 43xvlD0 22:18, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
  9. Vicyorus (talk) 22:35, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
  10. ɐɾuıN uǝǝɹפ (talk) 00:16, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
  11. ✓ Kyfur New Emote (talk) 10:54, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
  12. Kallie Jo (talk) 16:17, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
  13. User:DjCadence ThePenguin

Comments

  • Read my reason above the voting sections. PLEASE THINK A BIT AND READ THE CHAT LOGS BEFORE YOU VOTE AGAINST! And please don't vote neither for nor against if the user is just your friend or enemy. Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 18:01, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
  • Also, Callum may be your friend and such, but something has to be done about this. Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 18:02, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
  • No, just no. Mariocart25 3DGlasses 18:13, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
  • Excuse me? This is all a lie. I was there. Callum never did this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheNintendoKing (talkcontribsedit count)
    • Read the chat logs OMG They were are logged and couldn't have been edited by an user -.- Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 18:41, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
    • Read the chat logs ~ Perapin GreenModeratorBadge (Contact) 09:53, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
  • I seen proof on User talk:Penguin-Pal, he kicked someone for proving that someone was swearing in a Private Message, i saw it, callum did it, nobody can say he can't because he did, i saw it (Agent Unknown (You didn't see anything) 18:57, May 14, 2014 (UTC))
  • I am highly against this. Callum is anything but aggressive, abusive, mean, and corrupt. He is a very friendly user. Number one: so basically you are making a claim that he should be demoted because he does not know what "gay" means... okay then. Number two: he laughed... wow, he should be locked up and thrown in the slammer right now then! Number three: when you say he "lied", this can be a very biased statement, especially when he was referring to what you said. These sort of things tend to be stretched; perhaps you were suggesting that he was not a good mod so he decided to tell Kallie. This should lead to a demotion, how? Does consulting an admin violate the policy? Number four: he and Miron had a dispute. It happens, people disagree with one another and sometimes it leads to arguments. This does not appear to occur on a consistent basis, so of course it is best not to argue when possible, however, your claims are not strong enough for a demotion. What I have noticed lately is a high level of harassment towards Callum. A few users in chat (not saying names) were chewing him over on the simplest of things in a harassing way. I know that this has been going on recently, and I wish for an end to it immediately. It seems to me that Callum has been being ganged up on and picked at, which is very wrong. I don't care if you may not find him appealing, leave the man alone. If Callum ever seems to be "aggressive, abusive, mean, and corrupt", then it is most likely that someone is provoking him to react that way, which is not right to do. I'd really like everyone who has been involved in this pointing fingers came recently to knock it off and be the more mature person. If you wanna tell me something that I don't know, then feel free to. Jeserator HAIL TO THE REDSKINS! Football Pin 19:00, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
    • Chat Mods should KNOW not to let other people provoke them react that way. ~ Perapin GreenModeratorBadge (Contact) 09:53, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
    • We never provoked him; he provoked us with his selfish, rude act. Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 19:03, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
    • I did not say you in particular because I was not on at the time with you. For sure, however, other users have, I don't want you to tell me that that didn't happen. I saw what was going on, I understood what was going on, and that's final. Jeserator HAIL TO THE REDSKINS! Football Pin 19:06, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
    • Jeserator, you are never on when he is on, not often at least, if you check the logs (provided it was a time when the bot was on) you will see how rude he really is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BetterHopeForThatDopeOrFreeze (talkcontribsedit count)
    • To have you know, I check the logs everyday. And the few times that I have been on, I witnessed the harassment towards him when he said/did nothing that would provoke anyone at all. Also, I noticed that you said below that you have heard stories from other users about him. One sad thing to know about people, they aren't always honest. If you had a grudge towards someone, would you tell others about how good they are or how bad? Obviously the bad side, so don't always rely on stories. Also, I would like for you to know that Leader of CP Parties! has been blocked for 5 days "due to several incidents of fighting and posting an offensive blog". Also, Razaq1 has been blocked for his behavior towards Callum as well. So let's sum up who's being the rude one.
      Jeserator HAIL TO THE REDSKINS! Football Pin 22:16, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
    • Good point and good persuasive comment. ~ Perapin GreenModeratorBadge (Contact) 09:55, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
    • Good point. Penguin-Pal (talk) 09:42, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
    • And what about the "he once made up stories about how Miron argued with him and he once lied about C H U N K Y being 12 years old. Callum once kicked people twice for revealing their email" part? Are you going to pretend that never happened? 13:00, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
      • No, I'm not going to pretend that it never happened. I simply did not bother addressing it because hearsay and biased opinions of a situation do not qualify under my book as criteria for demotion. Nor does kicking someone for revealing their email address. He thought that it was a privacy related issue and took the wrong action. Live and learn, everyone makes mistakes. I think that things are being blown out of proportion lately.
        Jeserator HAIL TO THE REDSKINS! Football Pin 19:01, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
  • Such stupid. Tin Can 3000 TO THE FUTURE! Tin Can 3000
  • I was there, and I really think Callum doesn't deserve this. FurryHamster03 Puffle 2014 Transformation Player Card Rainbow 21:42, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
  • Sorry Callum, but you have been getting quite rude with some people. And lying to Penguin-Pal about the reason I blocked your PMs? Wow. Ain't nobody got time fo' dat! 21:53, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
  • He seemed cool, but I have heard various people tell me stories confirmed by other users of how he has issued unfair punishments and etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BetterHopeForThatDopeOrFreeze (talkcontribsedit count)
  • I will no vote for this, but I do have lots of cons and some pros about Callum. TanCowboyHatTanCowboyHat 22:23, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
  • Fair enough, but... I'm not voting for this. --GlitchPokemon (talk) 22:46, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
  • I don't see why he deserves this. Everyone is a bit mean every once in a while. And laughing? He was just joking around. Let it go, as Elsa would say. ɐɾuıN uǝǝɹפ (talk) 00:16, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
  • What is this immature nonsense? I wanted the lot in the conflict demoted, not just Callum. The following people that are supposed to be nominated for demotion are: Callum Fawsitt, Super Miron, and Twinkie102. Now as I don't want to go off topic, I will just focus on my approval of Callum being demoted (see this) ~ Perapin GreenModeratorBadge (Contact) 09:19, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
    • Miron doesn't deserve demotion Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 11:40, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
    • Note to Callum: If you think my judgement is too critical and harsh, please let me know and I will take this up to another admin or a professional user to see if there's any light in this that can convince me to vote against. Also, I can train rollbacks. Apologies for not going insightful in this evidence since there is too much to comment on. ~ Perapin GreenModeratorBadge (Contact) 09:19, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
      • Thanks for your comments, but please note that i've replaced the full content of your message with a link to your original message, to prevent this content from flooding the discussion. Penguin-Pal (talk) 09:42, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
  • Hi everybody
Demotion Necessary Demotion Unnecessary
Callum's daunting attitude at times Super Miron's harassing of Callum
Penstubal's harassing of Callum
Twinkie102's harassing of Callum
Final judgement: AGAINST
✓ Kyfur New Emote (talk) 10:54, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
  • So you think that Callum shouldn't be demoted just because you're making up stories about us harassing him? kden. 12:44, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
    • This is EXACTLY why you have been nominated for demotion. In case you don't know what harassment means, it means "aggressive pressure or intimidation". You were clearly being aggressive and intimidating, and note that this classifies as a form of bullying. If you keep on doing this, you will be blocked for the same reason I was blocked for a week. In fact, this comment you just gave to Kyfur is also intimidating/aggressive. He isn't making up stories of you harassing him. "Do you really think [censored] means stupid" is evident of harassment. You wouldn't be happy if someone said the same thing to you. Also "kden" is a rude thing to say, as well as aggravating, therefore you are being intimidating. ~ Perapin GreenModeratorBadge (Contact) 04:49, May 16, 2014 (UTC)
  • Look, i don't see how Callum are getting demoted... but seriously: "Callum yesterday lied to Kallie about me screaming how he shouldn't be chat mod when i asked him "what does account age have to do with kicking and banning" after he said some stuff which have nothing to do with what i said, he once made up stories about how Miron argued with him and he once lied about C H U N K Y being 12 years old. Callum once kicked people twice for revealing their email. It may or may have not been personal, but still.". --GlitchPokemon (talk) 13:15, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
  • I Love Callum in every way. He's not rude, he's not abusing his powers, and he's always nice! There's No way he would do all those things. Besides, If I did those things, That would be breaking my hero's code. And its bad if I do that... I don't want to go into description about explaining what happens if I break the Hero's Code. So here's one word to describe this: Stupid.Do do do do Banana Bus! (talk) 14:18, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
    • Indeed, that word is the only way I can describe your comment. 14:22, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
    • Miron, you should know better than to go saying things like that
  • Hes had like five billion fights on chat [[User:OrangePuffle]
    • Ummm, proof?
  • The example you provided in the chat logs was not a good one: all I see is Pens and Miron laughing at Callum because he had a misconception of the meaning of the word gay. Callum then tries to ignore it, maybe feeling slight humiliation, by saying "k". I do not see Callum being rude anywhere, all I see are people either a.) trying to make Callum look bad, b.) people trying to provoke Callum, or c.) trying to make Callum feel unwelcome. I know Callum well; he is a very kind user who is quite the opposite of mean or threatening. What needs to stop is people trying to make Callum feel unwelcome. This is a very serious issue, and frankly me nor Callum would like to tolerate it anymore. Of course, Callum is not perfect and may not have handled some of these situations as best as he could, but as far as I know he did not do anything to deserve demotion. It sickens me how many of the same people who provoked Callum are voting for. Kallie Jo (talk) 16:17, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
    • And what about the "he once made up stories about how Miron argued with him and he once lied about C H U N K Y being 12 years old. Callum once kicked people twice for revealing their email" part which everyone just ignores? 16:20, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
      • He thought Chunky was 12 because Leader has told him this on Skype (he told me this personally weeks ago). Plus, thinking someone is underaged does not deserve demotion, obviously. And it seems he didn't make up stories, he mostly just exaggerated the situation. I'm not saying that is right. Kicking people for revealing their email is something I can simply talk to him about, I mean he was just promoted in April, it's typical that a user that hasn't had their rights for a long time would make a mistake soon after being promoted. Please do not think I am dismissing these things, I just do not think they are demote-worthy. Kallie Jo (talk) 16:37, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
  • He's annoying too, he keeps saying 'HI AGENT (WAVE)' when i join the chat, so i sent him a private message to tell him to say 'WAZZUP AGENT!' and he said 'Ok' but he keeps saying 'HI AGENT (WAVE)' it's really annoying (Agent Unknown (You didn't see anything) 16:22, May 15, 2014 (UTC))
    • ...ok, so now we've moved on to complaining about how he politely greets people in chat... Explosion animation
      Jeserator HAIL TO THE REDSKINS! Football Pin 19:01, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
    • Per above. Invalid argument for demotion

2nd Anniversary Party CakeToo Regular since 2012 Mordecai character May 12, 2014

  • I feel he should be demoted. I was his friend, until he made up stories of me being twelve and other stories about my friends. He has turned into a nasty person, who has set his mind wholy on trying to get others demoted. I hope he will be demoted, if not blocked. Chunky! Klutzy Poo 16:37, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
  • I won't vote for or against since I have not been aware upon the wiki lately. However, I have noticed several arguments mostly involved with Callum. Although Callum is my friend, I would say he may have not done a great job as a chat mod so far. I would say to give Callum another chance since he is a new user, but since he claimed himself as an old user, then I suppose he had enough experience and he's aware of what he is doing. Nominating for Miron upon demotion was truly inmature of him and if he seriously lied about C H U N K Y's age, then that would be a real argument to vote for. Also, if he really kicked a user for revealing his email address, then that's the user's fault. The user should've been more cautious before doing something on the Internet. In that case, I see Callum's kick upon that user utterly unnecessary. Still, I may change of idea to vote for since I have been seeing enough information provided by certain users, with valid arguments like Perapin's for example. As I said before, I may vote for in the near future once I change idea. Nonetheless, that does not mean that I won't be your friend Callum, I am only showing my perspective point of view upon the incident lately.

2nd Anniversary Party CakeToo Regular since 2012 Mordecai character May 12, 2014

  • All right. Since Kallie Jo, Kyfur and Jeserator are the only ones who voted against that gave a mature and convincing opinion, I have removed my For vote. I will not however, vote Against, as I still think Callum needs some touching up. Please note that I will not be this generous again. ~ Perapin GreenModeratorBadge (Contact) 04:49, May 16, 2014 (UTC)

User:Super Miron (-1)

Nominated by Callum Fawsitt and confirmed by Dps04

For (3)

  1. Callum Fawsitt
  2. Cadence176761
  3. ~ Perapin GreenModeratorBadge (Contact) 05:01, May 16, 2014 (UTC)

Against (4)

  1. (Agent Unknown (You didn't see anything) 15:35, May 15, 2014 (UTC))
  2. Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 15:48, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
  3. Yellowperson has returned from dopeland (talk) 16:01, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
  4. TanCowboyHatTanCowboyHat 01:51, May 16, 2014 (UTC)

Comments

  • He definitely requires a demotion. He has been increasingly rude lately with his intimidating and aggressive behavior. His rude remarks were obviously intentional, as they are designed to take offence to a user yet not get demoted for it. I know his tricks. When was the last time you saw Super Miron happy, other than laughing at someone? ~ Perapin GreenModeratorBadge (Contact) 05:01, May 16, 2014 (UTC)
  • He has been fairly rude in the chat room recently, he has made several rude comments towards me when I kicked someone for sharing an email that included their own name in, a few weeks ago. And he oftenly makes rude comments towards me when there are just me and him as mods on the chat and I kick someone for using caps. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Callum Fawsitt (talkcontribsedit count)
  • Do you have any proof that he did? all the time me and him are on chat, he acts nice, i have one to say: OBJECTION (AKA Against) (Agent Unknown (You didn't see anything) 15:39, May 15, 2014 (UTC))
  • Wow, i can't believe you, Callum. Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 15:49, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
  • Those who vote for are blinded. Most of them would probably be those who vote against for Callum's demotion, yet he was also maybe meaner than Miron, if he even was mean. --Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 15:53, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
  • There have been some instances where Miron has acted rude to other users, but I think they are unintentional for the most part. I'm not sure if this deserves a demotion. Kallie Jo (talk) 15:57, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
  • I don't feel a fantastic user and a great friend should be demoted just because another user, who takes great joy in watching others being demoted, is of threat of it happening to himself. Why should callum take out his anger on Miron? Chunky! Klutzy Poo 16:37, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
  • YEAH (Agent Unknown (You didn't see anything) 16:40, May 15, 2014 (UTC))
  • Why the hell is a demotion even needed? Miron can be rude at times but he is a very good mod. TanCowboyHatTanCowboyHat 01:51, May 16, 2014 (UTC)
  • Personally, Miron does not really deserve a demotion. He is a mature user enough to handle his powers correctly. Something tells me you nominated him as revenge upon Pentsubal nominating you for demotion. If you genuinely did such thing, then that's something truly mature of you.
2nd Anniversary Party CakeToo Regular since 2012 Mordecai character May 12, 2014
  • Truly mature? More like immature, however, Callum is right in Super Miron being rude. I have not been happy with his conduct. ~ Perapin GreenModeratorBadge (Contact) 05:02, May 16, 2014 (UTC)
  • Phineas I think what you said was true. TanCowboyHatTanCowboyHat 03:03, May 16, 2014 (UTC)
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