Forum:User page policy

Hello everybody.

Our admins have agreed to create a new policy regarding the use of user pages. These rules were based off the Ratchet & Clank wiki's rules, and these rules are common on pretty much every big wiki.

Essentially, if you edit your userpage too much, your userpage will be protected. This sounds shocking, but we are really concerned about the amount of users who never contribute to the wiki, or rarely do.

You can talk with friends as much as you want on forums, chat sites and IRC, but the Club Penguin Wiki is not a forum!

These will be the restrictions:

Restrictions

As a user, your user page should not be the primary contribution to the Club Penguin Wiki. Therefore there are some editing rules for how often you may edit your user page. Please contact an administrator if you have any concerns.

• The following restrictions take place after you make 50+ total edits to the Club Penguin Wiki:

• If your user page edit percentage totals over 40% you will receive a warning.
• If your user page edit percentage then reaches 45% or more your user page will be protected for a while until your user page edit percentage drops to below 35%.
• If your talk page is being heavily used as a forum or an exchange of conversations, you will be warned.

See Special:Editcount for your current edit percentages.

Now I understand we haven't had a public vote, but this thing is essential for any wiki! Remember, you can always have a good time with other people without your userpage! If you have any concerns, please post them below this line. The policy will be taken into effect this week at the soonest, so please be prepared, as your page may be protected! --Tigernose Chat • Edits 21:23, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

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As this policy was based off the R&C userpage policy, I was also thinking about drafting in other similar user page rules as found on this page. --Tigernose Chat • Edits 21:23, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reminds me of Bulbapedia's 4 user page edits per day, to prevent overediting of user pages. --Zapwire (talk/blog/edits) 21:39, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

We should write a bot to automatically protect pages or block people or something. --seahorseruler |Talk (EditCount) Yoshi! 23:25, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with this. --You're a Mons†er!. SIGNFORMYBDAYPARTAY!!! ♫♬iLOVEMUSIC!♪♩ 00:28, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

Good idea ♫Ellyppi♫ ^{Talk 2 me! | My edits! | Check out my blog!} 10:26, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with this,Anons shouldn't be able to edit your'e userpage. But registered contributers should be able to,like,what if they need to edit their status for,a party,perhaps? The party thing would mean my userpage.... It's another day in the life of a boy named Johnny Test! 11:25, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'll try, but it might be hard. (Please give me a warning if I edit it too much) --Hey!! My front door's always open. CHICKEN NUGGETS!!! A dozen happys! 13:05, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

Hate to say it but this may be really tough for me cause i dont edit on main cuz when i have an idea of what to put on there, its all ready there:Europea^{I'm bored} 00:11, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

If you register for a wiki, that means you need to help it.--Tigernose Chat • Edits 22:07, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Errrr.... Tiger. No, you don't need to help it. You can do plenty of other things on Wikia. Ozone101 22:14, April 20, 2010 (UTC) Eh... I guess I agree... Sort Of... Wonderweez 02:49, April 20, 2010 (UTC)Wonderweez

I agree... a little... I DON'T MY EDITS TO GO DOWN :(Franky bob ^{(Shop!|Talk!|Blog|Pet shop|Newspaper!)} 11:28, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Booo! Thats RUBBISH! You don't know what your doing! BOO! :( --User:Conaboy2

Wow, really? --Tigernose Chat • Edits 22:07, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, this is crap. Complete crap. What about user's who edit their userpage often. Are you gonna show sympathy to them? ARE YOU? - Ozone101 22:14, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE BLOODY POINT. IF YOU WANTED A SOCIAL NETWORKING PROFILE, GO TO FACEBOOK. YES YOU HAVE A USER PROFILE HERE, BUT THAT'S NOT THE MAIN PURPOSE. THIS IS AN ENCYCLOPEDIA! EDIT ARTICLES! UPLOAD PICTURES! SUGGEST CHANGES! --Zapwire (talk/blog/edits) 09:42, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Zapwire: How bloody old are you. Go to Wikia: NOT a children's online game wiki. Ozone101 10:39, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Just because it's about a children's game doesn't mean you can turn it into an social networking site. It's an encyclopedia, and it's also a wikia. And you knowing about me is not of your business. --Zapwire (talk/blog/edits) 11:44, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

1. Sysops can de-block their page. 2. Will my page be blocked right when it starts? Yay!^{I SAID YAY!} 11:40, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

You need to check your editcount. Click on the link and type your name in. If your user page edits percentage doesn't meet the guidelines, your page will be blocked. --Tigernose Chat • Edits 20:20, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ozone, you're hanging on a thread now. Don't push it, your statements are false and are of no relevance to Zapwire or me. --Tigernose Chat • Edits 20:20, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

No offense, but I don't agree. I think it's really unnecessary. NHL Hockey - Let's Go Pens! 21:09, April 21, 2010 (UTC) And really, there should be a vote. NHL Hockey - Let's Go Pens! 21:31, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, this is pretty unnesesary. How is telling people they can't edit their userpage going to get them to make helpful contributions to the wiki? Making them mad isn't going to get them to want to help out. :)Jelloratbob:) ^{My talk page | My edits} 23:36, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Lol, because if you spend too much time editing your user page, won't be able to contribute to the wiki. Your still allowed to edit you userpage, but if you edit it too much, it will be protected. --Tigernose Chat • Edits 15:44, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Jelloratbob. This new policy could easily backfire. I understand that you are admins wishing the best for the CPW, but this isn't... good. It's not that I CAN'T edit my userpage, it's that my RIGHT TO EDIT MY PAGE has been taken away for silly reasons. Sorry if this offended anyone. NHL Hockey - Let's Go Pens! 20:06, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

You're only getting your page protected because your using it too much. Not everybody is getting their page protected. --Tigernose Chat • Edits 20:50, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not making myself clear. See, I mean to say that it sort of takes away basic rights. Still, you are an admin, but I just think there should at least be a vote. NHL Hockey - Let's Go Pens! 21:46, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

"This wiki is a democratic wiki, and therefore all our decisions go through a community vote and then are discussed finally and on occasions are tweaked." That's what it says on the voting policy. But there was no vote. ? And btw, I don't qualify for this, my percengage for user page isnt high enough. NHL Hockey - Let's Go Pens! 22:00, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, we need a vote. Let's see what everyone says. nʞıɐɹ 22:03, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

) NHL Hockey - Let's Go Pens! 22

25, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

This is my opinion, do not take it offensively. I think there should be a community vote on this. My edit count meets the guidelines, so I am not begging for reconsideration. Users were not warned about this new guideline, and should not have their user pages protected unless they violate this policy AFTEr it was enforced. You should not punish users who have an unruly editcount if they were not warned of the policy, it makes no sense. Please consider this. --Alxeedo Ohai dar! 22:32, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

^Exactly! --Hal Homsar Solo ^{かけがえのない詩} Kakegae no Nai Uta 22:36, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

We are warning them! How are we not? It hasn't even been enforced yet! This discussion was meant to be a vote, I didn't want a section vote, I wanted to see what people really think. Why are people getting the wrong idea? --Tigernose Chat • Edits 19:56, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

I'm kinda unsure about this. Yes, you should try to not edit your user pages too often, but what if you edit someone else's user pages or sign up to parties? Or if you used to edit your user page) a lot before, but you're not doing so anymore? Also, sysops can still edit their pages even though they are protected. --Staffan15 ^{(talk|contribs)} 07:04, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Tigernose, NO! You're hanging on a thread right now. It's freaking OBVIOUS that people don't agree to this idea. Duh! It's not rocket-science. You're the idiot who thought up this idea. Anyway, no. I will not agree with this idea. I don't have to, nor anybody will make me. In other news, Zapwire shows his true heart shouting at me, for just disagreeing with this idea. Yay for him. Ozone101 07:27, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

I'm an idiot? Pretty much every wiki has this. It was common sense to add this to any wiki, but this is an exception. Clearly, people are so immature that they take this so seriously. We had a vote on IRC with the admins, and this page was for further discussion. Everybody here is so impatient, they haven't realised I haven't enforced anything yet! --Tigernose Chat • Edits 19:56, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Because YOU were acting uncivil about it with baww and raeg. If you talk civil about it, like Russian, I won't overreact. But ever heard of the grandfatherclause? Also, this does need a community vote, just that Tigernose didn't add one. We're taking all this discussion in to change this policy, then we'll vote.

I totally think there should be a community vote as lots of people dont agree with this. I dont agree, because the only thing you will make users, will get them mad, and if they get made they'll quit. Lots of quitters, less users, less activity, etc. I agree that users shouldn't useredit a lot, but theres nothing wrong with that, its only that they dont do all right. Think of it this way, maybe a user out of ten useredits will make 4 mainedits. I repeat, the only thing this'll cause will make ppl quit.--Ratonbat 10:12, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I think we need a vote on this. Its the only best way for a result. If it happens and people dont know about it, they probably wont be happy:Europea^{I'm bored} 10:21, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Don't like this rule tons. I think they can edit their userpage as much as they want, but if they make it too much of a forum or something it will be protected. If people want to edit mainspace, let them. If they don't, deal with it. It's up to the users what they edit. We can't make them edit a certain page.-- Barkjon  Complaints here! 15:56, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I'm planning on revising it to something MUCH simpler and likable to the masses. Because none really liked the percent thing, it will be just "you can only edit your user page 4 times a day" - exceptions are signing on a different user page for a party or something. --Zapwire (talk/blog/edits) 17:31, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

That's a lot harder to work with in my opinion, and way too broad. I only made this policy because I do it on every other wiki. Over there, nobody has a 50% userpage percentage, I would be surprised if people had one here. Think to yourself: Does this even affect you? Are you breaking the rules as stated above? Even so, why do you need to edit your userpage so much? --Tigernose Chat • Edits 19:56, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Let me make this clear, I haven't enforced this. This discussion is a community vote. It is so much more effective than a listed vote, we get so many more views and opinions.

Secondly, does this even affect you? Consider what I said just above.

Thirdly, as an admin, I have to deal with a lot of immature things at this wiki. A lot of this takes place on userpages and talk pages. By protecting them temporarily for those who misuse them, it makes the job a helluva lot easier.

Feel free to disagree, I'm happy for people to point out things that are bad about this. "TIGERNOSE YOU SUCK I LOVE MY USERPAGE DONT TAKE IT AWAY FRM ME PWEASE" is not a valid point. --Tigernose Chat • Edits 19:56, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Barkjon said basically what I'm trying to say. Maybe instead of enforcing not editing your userpage too much, how about encouraging to not edit your userpage too much? NHL Hockey - Let's Go Pens! 20:29, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Or I mean, to edit more often. NHL Hockey - Let's Go Pens! 20:29, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Nobody ever listens. What do you think we've been trying to do with all these reforms? --Tigernose Chat • Edits 20:31, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

I don't understand what you mean. And yes, I did read the post. I know that this has not been enforced yet. NHL Hockey - Let's Go Pens! 21:03, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Look we have to do a vote! It's the only fair way! (Another fair for me would be RPS but this is off topic) Look I am not on here as often now. I'm webmaster on the CP likes and dislikes wiki, im on the fanon. I try to get here as much as possible:Europea^{I'm bored} 13:23, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

That reason is not of any merit. "Your not here often". And? This is the vote anyway, this is a community discussion, I said it for the hundredth time! --Tigernose Chat • Edits 17:12, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Check Walkin Tacko's editcount, and decide on him. --Iceanator189 Talk Page Two pickles are better than one! (Contribs|Edit Count) 13:42, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Is he your sockpuppet? --Tigernose Chat • Edits 17:12, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Look! Tigernose u r right "I am not here often" is not a reason but I too am a user on here! I am trying to help with this vote.:Europea^{I'm bored} 20:41, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

• BAD IDEA. --Unknown4 Talk 08:46, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

First of all, I don't think saying that "thats what facebook is for" is valid, for multiple reasons, one, I'm guessing many are not allowed on facebook, second of all, its not themed, and I'm guessing many would also not be allowed on Ning(although making something seperate just for the community here might be interesting).

I dont edit my userpage much, but I dont see why this would help that much. It also seems to be something easily bypassible, find a page that a small improvement can be made to, and repeatedly make tiny mistakes in those so as to edit it again...Madaco 01:23, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

If people aren't allowed on Facebook or Ning, then they shouldn't be allowed here. Sorry, it was their choice to join this wiki. If they don't like it that they can't edit their userpage anymore, then it's their choice to leave. They're not helping anyone in the first place. --Tigernose Chat • Edits 16:00, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

That's what a lot of users do. It makes no difference, we'll still protect their page if they misuse it. --Tigernose Chat • Edits 15:17, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Are you actually going through with it? Because if this discussion is a vote, I think that the we shouldn't go through with it. Lots of people disagree. NHL Hockey - Let's Go Pens! 21:32, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Tigernose and Zapwire, you both have A LOT experience. But I still think that this will make lots of people angry. Really, how about encouraging editing instead? NHL Hockey - Let's Go Pens! 21:42, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Seriously, you are going to let this happen CP Wiki?? Look, you can do it, but you can loose a million and one users because of this stupid policy. As said by a user above, what about user like Hal Homsar Solo and others, who update their userpage thoroughly and carefully? Make four mistakes and you'll have to wait a long time to contribute again! What is the point of this policy? And since this is a Wikia on Club Penguin, some of us aren't aloud to use Facebook, MySpace etc.

So why put this stupid policy in??? The Strikester 22:20, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

For the last time... Nobody understands anything here do they? Hal won't be affected, only those who have a userpage percentage of over 50%. Does Hal have a 50% userpage percentage? Hell no, she edits mainspace all day. This only affects people who don't contribute to this wiki. A small minority of you will be affected. I'm going ahead with this no matter what, because some people are so immature here, I've given up trying to explain this to prevent them from jumping to conclusions. Also, you have to be over 13 join Wikia and Facebook, so if you can't go on Facebook, you can't go on here. --Tigernose Chat • Edits 00:09, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

I thought it was implied that the reason that they could not go on facebook would be parental reasons... Madaco 01:15, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty surprised if teenagers are not allowed on Facebook but are allowed on Club Penguin Wiki. If this is the case, and I doubt it's common, then they are not exempt from this policy. Listen, this is only for people with a 50 percent userpage percentage! You can still chat and talk and edit your userpage, as long as it's below that percentage! --Tigernose Chat • Edits 11:40, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

When is this starting? It said "this week" for about a month. Yay!^{I SAID YAY!} 12:41, May 2, 2010 (UTC)